From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun May 16 12:50:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F037F1512C for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id VAA05260; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:50:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10j769-0003pN-00; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:01:21 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:01:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Szilveszter To: "G. Adam Stanislav" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbie tip In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990516134529.0096a960@mail.bfm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! On Sun, 16 May 1999, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > >Consider trying bash (the shell of choice for most Linux distribs) or > >tcsh, all of which are available in the /usr/ports/shells directory. > > Ah! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Koszonom szepen!!! :-))))) It's so nice when it turns out that so many people speak some Hungarian!!!! You're welcome! > >Caution: As many have said here already, don't change the root shell to > >anything other from sh or csh because that's a really bad idea. > > Why is it a bad idea? Well, because each of these is installed under /usr/local and there are high chances that these are not on the root filesystem. Therefore, if something goes wrong and you have to boot single-user with only root mounted (like me when I messed up my /etc/fstab) then you will not have tcsh around. As far as I know, the system falls back on /bin/sh in those cases but I don't know for sure. So, in order to be able to use my usual things (like config files) even in these cases, I kept root's shell as csh and use bash for normal users. (Then at least I will notice that I'm running as root and switch back to normal user ASAP because of the inconvenience:-) Another method to try and get you out of the habit of logging in as root when it is not needed:-)))))) But there are other gurus who maybe can say it more precisely here or on `questions'. After all, I'm also quite new to this ( have had FreeBSD for about 3 months) and besides not even specializing in computers or informatics. So I have to be quiet and believe what the pros say until I'm cute enough to figure out on my own:-))))))))))) > > >I hope it helps. > > Yes, it did. Thanks again! > > Adam All the best! Szilveszter Szeged University Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message