From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 14:23:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED16C37B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CB043F3F for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4QLN7rN027845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 26 May 2003 23:23:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4QLN3Os062326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 26 May 2003 23:23:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4QLN3Mh096145; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:23:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4QLN3td096144; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:23:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:23:03 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Alexey Zelkin , Nate Williams Message-ID: <20030526212302.GE66136@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20030526153641.GC55219@cicely12.cicely.de> <16082.16392.155803.403138@emerger.yogotech.com> <20030526165016.GB66136@cicely12.cicely.de> <16082.32022.793458.209912@emerger.yogotech.com> <20030526153641.GC55219@cicely12.cicely.de> <16082.16392.155803.403138@emerger.yogotech.com> <20030526165016.GB66136@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030526222142.A89689@phantom.cris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16082.32022.793458.209912@emerger.yogotech.com> <20030526222142.A89689@phantom.cris.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-BETA alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jdk on alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:23:25 -0000 On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 10:21:42PM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 06:50:17PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 10:25:44AM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > > > > What are the outstanding issues? > > > > > > > > I've read on http://kjkoster.org/java/content/newarch.jsp that > > > > invokeNative_alpha.s needs to be done. > > > > Is this still true? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > OK - that needs to be done. > > Keep in mind -- it's for classic VM only (i.e. no JIT and 1.3 only). Thanks for clarification. So I will have to start with jdk13. On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:46:14PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > > > unless you're doing it for research purposes. My 486/66 box with 16MB > > > of memory blows the doors off my 500Mhz Alpha with 256MB of memory. > > > Java on the alpha is slow, piggy, and basically useless. > > > > Well - I can't argue on that, but having at least a runable java is > > required today in many cases - even in simple one such as web browsing. > > Again, it's *SO SLOW* as to be complete unusable. Again, my 486/66 > blows the doors off of the Alpha. Rendering a page on an Alpha using > Java is simply way too slow and resource hungry. I will see. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de