From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 15 18:56:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1807B319 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scott4long@yahoo.com) Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24CE013A9 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 18:56:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.2] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 18:56:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 18:56:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1366052166; bh=w7UvLY2kbxUpjeDCeAOpS2Mt4voXIkP6UxbCCukEFFE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=NpA30B7wvZWKXKqIyKd24QAHUkcPbrIk3Xw42T+bvGOXGav6nz39pJ+i+ZwHP1xpXIy1DcgsP4FSIKzGlTyAekexMcOkh30pTiZOpjLaB3oJzV5I1AVSEY3GpTD59TuXIYlwGUq7MF4tjSk7/pov+A1TZ7fpQkZH0HoWTONa09M= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 463229.98655.bm@smtp102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: ewwQPWAVM1kM2PPbK8Bs92HNlKp8xz.ZqWqDaOIW5QdeI_q gH_52h3rleY_0F94nkeyyP_7l9VCKEhk0nlvleojJTLRVN4EcUr9lF9sQLnl JZXSkBBysXdnrygWVDWKEbt8lzkDB6yYu2fY_dTa4n_Y2eqbxB7w1ETCIfig kf5rWdz5TyfeaehI0VgbOcNofORHiyDHk6M77OElsQendKrTNlJAS7sftFDC qafVDlNhWq3JxbcpCovay8HeCb25LWoWmsAlb8CRdWMDrwyuYlRvCtJL4dkz ruMrsl54D5BJK7WY55bmMP.beEG5yHiXhcewd3Fzxt4cRXbEzRLmVB5__VtR Iq07YA28tzL4aKiNehnbkR.slVyJD4Bb9zmFpYP6G3elOuuZeJ4s0gbgxHv8 98o8KfdnaIXlSFjCAH1MBbVSRVIbtYNSPWyoHkc_qNeInlp03ehNUPDLjaEV nS2teePsck9tt X-Yahoo-SMTP: clhABp.swBB7fs.LwIJpv3jkWgo2NU8- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.254.206] (scott4long@168.103.85.57 with ) by smtp102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2013 11:56:06 -0700 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer From: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <201304151748.r3FHmhC3002734@slippy.cwsent.com> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:56:04 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201304151748.r3FHmhC3002734@slippy.cwsent.com> To: Cy Schubert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:36:59 +0000 Cc: Warren Block , "current@freebsd.org" , Chris Rees , Rui Paulo , "net@freebsd.org" , "cpet@sdf.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:56:14 -0000 On Apr 15, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Cy Schubert = wrote: > In message <18DF99B0-6E66-4906-A233-7778451B8A92@felyko.com>, Rui = Paulo=20 > writes: >> 2013/04/15 9:55=1B$B!"=1B(BCy Schubert = =1B$B$N%a%C%;!<%8=1B(B: >>=20 >>> I've been planning on taking on IP Filter for quite some time.=20 >>> Unfortunately I've left my src commit bit lapse (my ports commit bit = is=20 >>> alive and well though) thus I'm looking for a mentor. In addition = I'm=20 >>> working on an ACER WMI/ACPI kld. One mentor would be preferred but = two=20 >>> would be fine too. >>=20 >> What are your plans regarding ipfilter? I remain unconvinced that it = should b >> e in the base system. Perhaps you can work on it as a port? >=20 > The initial plan was to import IP Filter 5.1.2 into HEAD. darrenr@ = hadn't=20 > done much with IPF while employed with Sun. Since then there has been = some=20 > development that is long overdue for HEAD. >=20 > I'm not sure if I'd MFC it into 9 or not. >=20 > I did consider a port but given it would has to touch bits and pieces = of=20 > the source tree (/usr/src), a port would be messy and the decision was = made=20 > to work on importing it into base. >=20 >>=20 >> Why do you want to work on something that people have been trying to = remove s >> ince 2005? >=20 > I and others have been using it in FreeBSD for over decade. For the = longest=20 > of time we'd use a common set of rules across a FreeBSD and Solaris = farm=20 > (using ipfmeta, makefiles, rsync, rdist, and a local CVS repo).=20 > Interoperability with other systems which use IP Filter is a plus. If=20= > there's a maintainer, it only makes FreeBSD richer. Losing IP Filter = would=20 > be a loss. >=20 If you're committed to maintaining IPFilter, that's great. However, it = can't be left to stagger along in a zombie state with nothing more than good = intentions from well meaning people. What is your timeline for getting it back = into shape and re-integrating yourself into the committer community? Scott=