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Date:      Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:43:59 +0200
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        Jesus Monroy <jesus.monroy@usa.net>
Cc:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   On programmers and documentation
Message-ID:  <19990703074359.B61399@daemon.ninth-circle.org>
In-Reply-To: <19990701011234.25026.qmail@www0x.netaddress.usa.net>; from Jesus Monroy on Wed, Jun 30, 1999 at 06:12:33PM -0700
References:  <19990701011234.25026.qmail@www0x.netaddress.usa.net>

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* Jesus Monroy (jesus.monroy@usa.net) [990701 06:47]:
>     
>     Let's ask a real question:
>     Why can't program fixers write the fricken man
>     page fix also?
>     What's up with that?

I'd rather have DES, EE, Alfred, Brian, David, Mike, Kirk, Matt, Wes, Peter,
Doug, etc, etc. write initial documentation and leave it for some others to
change them to better documentation. This alows them to work on resolving
bugs.

>     Is this the correct response:
>     Okay, I'll take the glory, but we have janitors
>     to clean up after we are done. We call them
>     document specialist(sp?).

So I may start to call myself a document specialist now eh?

Anyways Jesus, it takes time to work on these things, I invest time in
trying to get the documentation correct. Sheldon is doing a great job on
the GNATS database (plus the occasional help from me and some others),
Doug is doing great things for the -questions stuff so that -current gets
addressed on certain issues. Chris Piazza has been very active on -ports.
Nik has done wonders for -doc. (And now I am forgetting hordes of other
people.)

I have yet to see your name appear out of the blue.

Instead of writing mails that merely accuse (which I take personal because
I invested time in it) I would ask you to put forth another 5-10 minutes
on the mail/subject and look at WHAT needs to be fixed and HOW plus, if 
available, with diff-/patchfile.

If you just criticise without giving proper feedback/help yer not really
making friends. Everyone can miss `parasites' for lack of a better term.
[parasites as in feeding on the precious time of others which could have
 been used to fix the little manpage problems present which started this
 whole fscking thread]

[NOTE: first posting about this subject, I will only reply to sensible
 answers]

With regards,

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven                          asmodai(at)wxs.nl
The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>;
Network/Security Specialist       BSD: Technical excellence at it's best
Cum angelis et pueris, fideles inveniamur. Quis est iste Rex gloriae...?


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