From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 18:45:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1CD1065693 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71908FC14 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBSIj4KY040550; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nBSIj4KN040547; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:04 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: doug@safeport.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:45:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg 7.4 questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:45:05 -0000 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, doug@safeport.com wrote: > I have been trying to get xorg 7.4 first going and then updated. I have some > general questions. First using xdm it takes from 3-5 minutes to start. > Second, using hal and dbus even starting is an adventure. Once it started in > well under a minute but mostly it just locks up. In reading Xorg.0.log and > xdm.log, I see no errors. Is my time-to-start out of line? Yes. For testing, disable xdm and try just "startx". If that's still slow, try "Xorg -retro" (ctrl-alt-backspace to quit, or maybe ctrl-alt-fn to switch back to the console running X and ctrl-c). I've heard of very slow starting with xdm but never got feedback to determine the problem. > Using hal and dbus was working fine until I attempted updating xorg using > portmaster, trying 'portmaster -n -PP xorg'. This gave me a list that seemed > reasonable so I tried it for real, getting an error about finding an archive > that I did not understand and the man page did not address. So I installed > portupgrade and the 'hal dbus' version of xdm stopped working. I view this as > coincidence but switching back to not using hal and dbus and using the ati > driver (rather than radeon) works. What video board do you have? What is in your xorg.conf? The ATI driver is just an autoloader; if you have a Radeon, it'll load that anyway. > As it appears that kde4 depends on having xorg updated, I am kind of stuck. > Is the time-to-start an indication that I have a basic hardware issue and all > my other symptoms derive that that? Doubtful. > My last question is does kde4 require hal or dbus to be activiated? Probably not, but I use xfce. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA