From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 3 19: 9:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5482A14D07 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (qmail 23147 invoked from network); 4 Jun 1999 02:09:26 -0000 Received: from dyson.iquest.net (198.70.144.127) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 02:09:26 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA05099; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:09:23 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199906040209.VAA05099@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: 3.2-stable, panic #12 In-Reply-To: <199906040145.CAA04373@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> from Brian Somers at "Jun 4, 99 02:45:56 am" To: brian@Awfulhak.org (Brian Somers) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:09:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@iquest.net, ahasty@mindspring.com, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, crossd@cs.rpi.edu, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, schimken@cs.rpi.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It wasn't the "dark side" of core, it was the panic'ed and worried > > part of core that was seeing things happening without careful review. > > The system was becoming unstable due to Matts changes. Whether the > instabilities were in Matts code or somewhere else is irrelevent. > The reaction was (IMHO) the right thing to do. > I was worried about the commit privs being removed, and Matt potentially giving up though. On a project where people's livelihoods are dependent, some kind of discipline is needed. In code as complex as the VM and VFS systems, it is good to require some kind of review... As I said before, I had lots of stuff in the queue, but was scared to commit it. It was critical to develop a testing infrastructure, and whether or not I am involved day-to-day, review and/or testing is very wise. (Perhaps it is more accurate to say that it is very unwise not to review and/or test code such as in the VM or VFS...) John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message