From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 07:46:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EF1106566C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147358FC17 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8I7kFfD044674; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:46:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q8I7kFOq044671; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:46:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:46:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lorenzo Cogotti In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:46:15 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:46:21 -0000 > Hi, > I was wondering about the possibility of FreeBSD to provide an official > supported graphical environment. UNIX (so FreeBSD) never had "standard graphical environment" or "graphical environment" at all. Xorg is standard in FreeBSD and most unices for graphics hardware support. There are thousands and more programs available that uses Xorg, including tens of "graphical environments", and everyone is free to select any of them if needed. Or none of them if not needed. Is it that bad to allow people control their computer and willingly choose what to use?