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Date:      Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:47:28 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      Josef Belkovics <belkovic@albert.osu.cz>
To:        Andrew Kenneth Milton <akm@zeus.theinternet.com.au>
Cc:        Karl Pielorz <kpielorz@tdx.co.uk>, mboers@datacompusa.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Problem with Cyclades Cyclom-8YeP on 2.2.7 and 3.0-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.981021112829.1314A-100000@albert.osu.cz>
In-Reply-To: <199810202341.JAA07346@zeus.theinternet.com.au>

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> | > I have previously submitted this question to freebsd-questions and 
> | > freebsd-hardware with no response.  I hope some kind soul on this may be 
> | > able to help me.
> | 
> | re: Card found, but no ports found...
> | 
> | Hi, this is a complete 'shot-in-the-dark', but our Z series Cyclades card
> | does exactly this if we have the card plugged in, but not the actual
> | ports... I don't know if the Y series works like this (i.e. PCI card +
> | cable to connect a seperate box to the PCI card)...
> 
> The (ISA) 16Ye's are almost the same. If there are no ports connected,
> you don't find the card at all. The 16Ye's have a SCSI-2 cable to a
> bunch of ports.

I have 2.2.7 FreeBSD Release, driver from ftp.cyclades.com, Cyclom-Ye/ISA
card and one SM Cyclom-8Ye/DB25. Card is found indenpendently of it, if
modem(s) is(are) on or off. 

If is true, that Cyclom-Ye/ISA with SM Cyclom-16Ye/???? or
Cyclom-Ye/PCI with anything isn't find, then:

1) Check your rs-232 pinouts on both ends of cable (there is no standard
   for 232 signals using rj-type connector etc.)
2) Try system which is supported by manufacturer (windows nt, linux, ...).

I feel, that atmosphere around the Cyclom-Ye/??? and their SM is strange. 
I follow the situation around cyclom under FreeBSD 3 years, but so far I
don't know, if driver is good or not.  Probably hundreds systems runs 4 x
Cyclom-Ye/PCI + 8 x SM Cyclom-16Ye/RJ45 + 1/2 ISPorte (compaq microcom
4000), but their owners lost kind soul. 

If anyone is using Cyclom-Ye/PCI, please be heard. (You will save money of
my university - i plan to purchase Cyclom-Ye/PCI and two SM
Cyclom-16Ye/RJ45.) 

> I don't know about the PCI ones, and I don't know about the 8-way
> octopus cable ones.
> 
> The new cyclades driver is required for the SM MkII pods, not for
> the card AFAIK. There also seems to be weirdness if you have an old
> serial pod, and a new serial pod on the same card.

What means MkII? What means AFAIK?

Josef Belkovics


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