From nobody Sat Oct 28 14:26:08 2023 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SHhfh3Sr5z4ytkh for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dufresnep@zoho.com) Received: from sender4-pp-o91.zoho.com (sender4-pp-o91.zoho.com [136.143.188.91]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SHhfg1kT4z3GgC for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dufresnep@zoho.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zoho.com header.s=zm2022 header.b=SClvUDNT; arc=pass ("zohomail.com:s=zohoarc:i=1"); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dufresnep@zoho.com designates 136.143.188.91 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dufresnep@zoho.com; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=zoho.com ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1698503175; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=dAfK9n6tXb4YFWBlrJK7XvuxQ3QVaf2MtmfbQGMB3MnA68pnrmKKCAVrvjCrUMFyCwyXfTms4Oq304u52E27NwOGUIOR/MXXCUzskVtGCU5P2YdRdjfP6qYLGaFQBeiS05SK3vyQOELSbaNGB3TanJwh0AkIHmNzAayna6DvWP0= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1698503175; h=Content-Type:Date:Date:From:From:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:Subject:To:To:Message-Id:Reply-To:Cc; bh=IVEKHECWM3y6W3/vFWv0XYlPOCDrnBywrowBvoM7DAg=; b=hqWObWpe7vubXE+ojF3B59olssWZVgx7PjmCkATXA3Qr5fCZDchxWumYVB2xP4dLblspsNg/uzTBDgo2hN45ESAtWHLz1BkxFGkhgoEhciWmzyirrz3VJfy5qQk0/gCGZ6n0qTf+Kpa3NIcPlbq9uto/JL0ve1nXfPBKL/g7jnM= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=zoho.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=dufresnep@zoho.com; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1698503175; s=zm2022; d=zoho.com; i=dufresnep@zoho.com; h=Date:Date:From:From:To:To:Message-Id:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:Subject:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Feedback-ID:Reply-To:Cc; bh=IVEKHECWM3y6W3/vFWv0XYlPOCDrnBywrowBvoM7DAg=; b=SClvUDNThnUaLVfS3AnVwCKHK4B7Npq/Wrh9seiwZwUr5Z3VOPKmfJcyjSe18ePr H7clAGzE9ZEglpkOh4krs8bDsWMzbdRYBP5N1PqhbJwt1k+V+L8xMlZj/3oPzznTZ31 3oibSKk+tPqh/O0BMF8m5m9iFY0EHsrlrxBOrFYI= Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1698503168150880.7160391520915; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 07:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.129.153.16] by mail.zoho.com with HTTP;Sat, 28 Oct 2023 07:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 10:26:08 -0400 From: Paul Dufresne To: "stable" Message-Id: <18b76ad9082.eb31f0a040143.2601069948522976587@zoho.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: So much longer to update than install fresh (+ no install feedback) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_103202_526163099.1698503168130" Importance: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Feedback-ID: rr08011228bfe6fc62bd2447792a799f730000307367b66f45758a0efe55e8b6f2c8a2caea2eec095508b2077e:zu08011227c23e1a3b30a5816ab7ec8b61000023334c660d5baeaff75aa46da70ba7960b7919b6183905590c:rf0801123244def3640a29ebe7c0f71aa40000117be9ca8cd5daa60c5334a3d73a2e6b567ee4c5e8bd1846f746d532699b31ec0dbf4d9e:ZohoMail X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.88 / 15.00]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[zohomail.com:s=zohoarc:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.888]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[zoho.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:136.143.188.0/24]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zoho.com:s=zm2022]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2639, ipnet:136.143.188.0/23, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[zoho.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zoho.com:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[zoho.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[136.143.188.91:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[zoho.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SHhfg1kT4z3GgC X-Spamd-Bar: ---- ------=_Part_103202_526163099.1698503168130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At first, I have tried to "freebsd-update -r 14.0-BETA3 upgrade" my 13.2 release (quite experimental install). I did not knew if I was supposed to go from 13.2 to BETA1, then BETA2, then BETA3... I still don't know. But after seeing it not showing anything for about 10 mins while showing "Installing updates..." I concluded something was going wrong, and interrupted it (reboot). I did take back the command, let it go for about 2.5h, and then done the same thing (stop it by force). The thing is that doing an install of 13.2 take about 10-15 mins. And so I am not much expecting so long without feedback for an upgrade. I have tried to "pkg-static -f upgrade" packages before the end of "freebsd-update -r something upgrade" (gone bad, all command missing some file), that I never seen succeed from 13.2. Even after reinstalling 13.2 and trying to upgrade to 14.0-BETA1, I was never patient enough to finish it. I had gone to 13 from 12, where I was upgrading at each BETA release that way. I don't really know if 13.2 take much more time than 12 was to upgrade... At the end I was having a feedback with "ps a" on an other terminal... seeing most of the time an install command,,, sometime ungzip. Wish the upgrader would show something like: "(54/23416 updates) llvm 15.2 (15/4600 files)" or maybe just: "54/23416 updates". The disk is a Barracuda 7200. 10 250 Gbytes (not a SSD). ------=_Part_103202_526163099.1698503168130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =
At first, I have tried to "freebsd-update -r 14.0-= BETA3 upgrade" my 13.2 release (quite experimental install).
=
I did not knew if I was supposed to go from 13.2 to BETA1, t= hen BETA2, then BETA3... I still don't know.

B= ut after seeing it not showing anything for about 10 mins while showing "In= stalling updates..." I concluded
something was going wrong, a= nd interrupted it (reboot).

I did take back th= e command, let it go for about 2.5h, and then done the same thing (stop it = by force).

The thing is that doing an install = of 13.2 take about 10-15 mins. And so I am not much expecting so long witho= ut
feedback for an upgrade. I have tried to "pkg-static -f up= grade" packages before the end of "freebsd-update -r something upgrade" (go= ne bad, all command missing some file),
that I never seen suc= ceed from 13.2. Even after reinstalling 13.2 and trying to upgrade to 14.0-= BETA1, I was never patient enough to finish it.

I had gone to 13 from 12, where I was upgrading at each BETA release that= way.

I don't really know if 13.2 take much mo= re time than 12 was to upgrade...

At the end I= was having a feedback with "ps a" on an other terminal... seeing most of t= he time an install command,,, sometime ungzip.

Wish the upgrader would show something like: "(54/23416 updates) llvm 15.2= (15/4600 files)" or maybe just: "54/23416 updates".

The disk is a Barracuda 7200. 10 250 Gbytes (not a SSD).

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