From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Dec 2 17:58:39 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5402F4A26B4; Wed, 2 Dec 2020 17:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-f171.google.com (mail-il1-f171.google.com [209.85.166.171]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CmRXv1lSjz3Mvx; Wed, 2 Dec 2020 17:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-f171.google.com with SMTP id z14so2343714ilm.10; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 09:58:39 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3uRIE8XS7hLrFef/3qThxxL8CvB/XT5GMWaIUI7JYTk=; b=bCWcNScaw4SiVMWbYlx1gSBA1+a3qSBjWZpRv6cc0ZxNcpzDo9dKQ4eVgK10yRhd1M q29EBWqxrYbXeftqwKCvrkCZ3SgENbSrpHcN7UV5GuSeP+KWQBnMa4lhe3Fgcs9r5SHp dA/SHMxt8GdwoUTAAzsBXAb7xc4wpON/KXyV/+CivucnliHL8P2Y1MuygWI2eqU9qUoy ll+rix/ujBxrLG2RPR91IOJXMddW8HLH4X2YS+V4mdvNjZpkgDM1PfeSwGMMLyCGdnZj jO51+k6Su2Q/TPXWcK9PVWG9ZDhFhSQTh7S7fCy59J/F3Dy3lWldiOwZP1v2c45XSS6F 3VRw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533tDTQ+ozZLjQYqb+u5c9Y730Xnc8fd7lmmisuH4Oxtiw+55cKA wj9ttyUoZxlK/1O1KPdiEGDgoPDjI4wt5HYGKwkkv13PnP8HgQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzbVhrSIvXNpgRw0M5LJkrA5sj/99oSpqIkLAgzVUqiXHRCigHKFG6MWoV3/2U79zznQsHslnS2uvmI5KEAoNg= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d90c:: with SMTP id s12mr3328673iln.100.1606931917569; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 09:58:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ed Maste Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 12:58:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Removing obsolete GDB 6.1.1 for FreeBSD 13 To: Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD Current , "freebsd-toolchain@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CmRXv1lSjz3Mvx X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2020 17:58:39 -0000 On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 12:52, Warner Losh wrote: > > even if lldb isn't a complete drop in replacement (I've not used it at all, so I can't say one way or another). Quick comment on this point - the FreeBSD Foundation has been sponsoring Moritz Systems to improve LLDB on FreeBSD, and they've done great work getting it into shape. Their work is in LLVM upstream now, and they're iterating on fixing issues found by LLDB's test suite. LLDB 12 should provide a capable userland debugging experience in FreeBSD 13, although I suspect many users will still install the gdb port or package for the familiar command line interface. There's no FreeBSD kernel support in LLDB yet, but it's being investigated.