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Date:      Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:41:59 +0200
From:      Michael Tuexen <tuexen@freebsd.org>
To:        Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: making SCTP loadable and removing it from GENERIC
Message-ID:  <A8BC13AB-F2EC-4819-8920-17395A4DBE64@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20200709151300.GC8947@raichu>
References:  <20200709151300.GC8947@raichu>

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> On 9. Jul 2020, at 17:13, Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I spent some time working on making it possible to load the SCTP stack
> as a kernel module, the same as we do today with IPSec.  There is one
> patch remaining to be committed before that can be done in head.  One
> caveat is that the module can't be unloaded, as some work is needed to
> make this safe.  However, this obviously isn't a regression.
> 
> The work is based on the observations that:
> 1) the in-kernel SCTP stack is not widely used (I know that the same
>   code is used in some userland applications), and
> 2) the SCTP stack is quite large, most FreeBSD kernel developers are
>   unfamiliar with it, and bugs in it can easily lead to security holes.
> 
> Michael has done a lot of work to fix issues in the SCTP code,
> particularly those found by syzkaller, but given that in-kernel SCTP has
> few users (almost certainly fewer than IPSec), it seems reasonable to
> require users to opt in to having an SCTP stack with a simple "kldload
> sctp".  Thus, once the last patch is committed I would like to propose
> removing "options SCTP" from GENERIC kernel configs in head, replacing
> it with "options SCTP_SUPPORT" to enable sctp.ko to be loaded.
> 
> I am wondering if anyone has any objections to or concerns about this
> proposal.  Any feedback is appreciated.
Hi Mark,

maybe it is acceptable to document user visible changes. This could include
* parameter tunings in /etc/sysctl.conf are only applied if the SCTP module
  is loaded from /etc/loader.conf.
* If the module is not loaded yet, a user must have root privileges to run
  a program using SCTP sockets.

Best regards
Michael




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