From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 20 19:34:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 408B8797 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C97857DA for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id bs8so1149656wib.11 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:34:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:from:date:to:message-id; bh=6Nf7qkqr21b256NvyEjc/7yoymsVHg1DWHO6C1aDWzU=; b=evNROHiy9HRe6kBV/VlYnH9Ig+NYlqitskGCskKEXaZ2VYiWXtrgpQ3JH3FAzCHrls hSNSXZ3h13so+OhshohgAXEjifHs2clRedKro4kRCoMMzuKpAEuOCgItmtjKVLXaN7jE kZhUS7ATsnzfFD0XY6YC4TVzdTlT86ni1UoCG5+LAQbtrl7abi9pdA7JJ0k7f5Xx8cof c+UEu5pj3fBWqAqh+S5Ue4oktyuE1sCzQVy+1S23KvAW4JeY40bahzfrKF4qRLgSDC0t Oc8Ty1bFzjV2arbJb+e5o8oZZXmlwSvekC7a7gDigDws2HsMpF+oGA0FuZdprcqENTZs Fg7A== X-Received: by 10.180.73.1 with SMTP id h1mr4971063wiv.10.1395344050255; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPV6:2001:470:7b2f:0:2c53:9781:e35a:7b43? ([2001:470:7b2f:0:2c53:9781:e35a:7b43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fs4sm9028044wib.11.2014.03.20.12.34.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:34:08 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: geli TRIM support From: "Mike C." Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:34:04 +0000 To: Greg Rivers ,freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:34:12 -0000 I was actually googling about this yesterday and found no more info then the thread you posted. So its seems that nothing was done related to this so far? Which means using trim+geli is problematic. I was using my ssd with UFS+trim+geli in my laptop. But even before noticing the lack of support changed my setup... since the laptop has both a ssd and hdd I am now using zfs+geli in the hdd. I have 2 partitions in the ssd and I'm using it for log/cache. But for laptops with 1ssd only this is a problem.... I also read that new ssd's depending on the vendor might not need trim at all, but I'm not really sure how to tell. On 20 March 2014 18:21:51 WET, Greg Rivers wrote: >A while back there was talk of adding TRIM support to geli(8) [1]. >Does >anyone know if progress has been made or if there are still plans for >it? > >[1] >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2013-March/016773.html > >-- >Greg Rivers >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 20 20:13:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10DF8C35; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31A5C29; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nine.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp-int.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73C2644A; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nine.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 71B2CF23; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:13:01 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Hello fdclose References: <201403181404.52197.jhb@freebsd.org> <201403191523.33275.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:13:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Warren Block's message of "Wed, 19 Mar 2014 14:28:15 -0600 (MDT)") Message-ID: <86zjkkr5ma.fsf@nine.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: jilles@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Mariusz Zaborski X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:13:10 -0000 Warren Block writes: > John Baldwin writes: > > Warren Block writes: > > > .Fn fdclose > > > is equivalent to > > > .Fn fclose , > > > but the file descriptor is returned rather than closed. > > Yes, but this has the 'no capital letter at the start of a sentence' > > problem. > I've heard that mentioned before, but have never seen any actual rule > regarding it. And we do have actual rules about avoiding redundant > phrases: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/book.html#wri= ting-style-guidelines We always use The .Nm foo utility or The .Fn foo function instead of just .Nm or .Fn at the start of a sentence, but never (or rarely) within a sentence. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no