From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 04:26:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9381F106568B; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mustaxe@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347FE8FC45; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so4490351yxe.3 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c8YRKgw3LkL0HyvBCLlbg0947RDG68xM1VQVHy2pPZ0=; b=Z/XpX8zk5iWdPc7giUEz3hT4DkfmmkSd/5ksnxR0sa/CwiiQMk4sIcpxD5rBcEh0Fj N6fiNehRwnORhyFF5HsUNUYrEcJxO5BgWB9Id5wKQcXYBrifmt9DXLnhUeMUDw9GnrZH OdMfcnWXd6eIu5T4+XGpPwvoEG1aaqJPq6SKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dlntGVyaELAPwEPsoSknV9bnwwiFCn302rybv22MBHr96IIOA3PrpuohZzvyeeQy8P 9MZw6jqSv3heqrZ37AR9+NnQAXhXjwSPZzo0gQszezK3ixVhyvCjx+fm/6VOqw3rBQf9 dUjfOePwmUFF+PgpKAuYp0atirk1IvcRLpHPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.129.13 with SMTP id b13mr4551665and.189.1250569602081; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0908161446j6ea4db1an6b9425923966e0e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <986a34160908161107g6bbb1d8bj94e6ad4d9b01f2e5@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0908161424w5c2d49c0m8017325a53eb66db@mail.gmail.com> <4A887C2C.6010608@freebsd.org> <2a7894eb0908161446j6ea4db1an6b9425923966e0e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:26:42 -0700 Message-ID: <986a34160908172126k4fa4c590n7c7279409d2a02f5@mail.gmail.com> From: Edu Carneiro To: Murray Stokely Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: Backup Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:26:43 -0000 Thanks for the comments and I agree that there should be a mention of all available backup methods such as cloud services; however, as far as giving sponsorship to selected services then that's a business decision. But such services only apply to certain people. In my case, I'm not using RAID and am going to implement a backup to an external storage and according to the docs, the suggestion is the dump/tar combo. It's still a valid method but since the reference is from almost 20 years ago, I was checking if there were any updated suggestions/ports. Or even to know what FreeBSD uses internally. Regards, Edu On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Murray Stokely wrote: > A fair point, and in that case perhaps a short paragraph introducing > the reader to the class of cloud based online backup systems as a > viable alternative to tape backup solutions in 2009, rather than > listing any specific services. A final sentence could then invite the > reader to peruse google or the commercial vendors page for specific > services. > > - Murray > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Colin Percival > wrote: > > Murray Stokely wrote: > >> I'd really like to see a new section here about commercial cloud based > >> backup offerings, including TarSnap as the most FreeBSD-friendly > >> variety, but also including some of the other services built on AWS or > >> other cloud services that can be used with FreeBSD. > > > > Thanks for the plug. :-) > > > > There are a couple of companies listed under > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ > > as providing backup services (www.ahsay.com, www.exavault.com) but I > don't see > > anything special about them aside from the fact that they presumably > submitted > > PRs asking to be added -- to be honest, I'm not entirely certain why > there is a > > "Commercial Vendors" page on the FreeBSD website at all when google does > a much > > better job of finding vendors. > > > > While I'm always eager to have more people hear about tarsnap, I think > putting > > any sort of list of vendors into the handbook would just end up as a huge > mess > > unless there's a very clear policy about which companies get listed -- > and I > > really can't imagine how to draw up such a policy. > > > > -- > > Colin Percival > > Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to serve > > Founder / author, Tarsnap | tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly > paranoid > > >