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Date:      Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:48:34 -0400 (EDT)
From:      stanislav shalunov <shalunov@att.com>
To:        chuckr@picnic.mat.net
Cc:        freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sgmlfmt: producing text files
Message-ID:  <199908041448.KAA18324@tuzik.lz.att.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908032321350.451-100000@picnic.mat.net> (message from Chuck Robey on Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:26:05 -0400 (EDT))
References:   <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908032321350.451-100000@picnic.mat.net>

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> From: Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
> 
> On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, stanislav shalunov wrote:

> You people are forgetting that man pages need to be available on the
> base system, and the sgmlformat tools are way too large EVER to be
> considered for the main system.  Sgmlformat is not a viable solution.

Thank you for the flame.  You might have kept it to yourself, because
nobody even mentioned including sgmlformat into the main system, or
formatting man pages for that matter.  It would be nice it you had at
least read the message you're replying to.

Next time you have time to waste, why don't you save it for something
more useful?

> > 	* Headings/footings (not so easily fixed, because one needs to
> > 	  extract the title, decode entities, etc.);

> Untrue, you don't seem to know groff well enough, it's very easy to do.

$r="I don't know roff, and don't really want to learn it.  I can write
a man page, and that's more than enough for me.  That's why I asked
about LaTeX output.  If you had the slightest intention of providing
any help (or signal, really), you would have said how one can disable
"

print $r . "page breaking and headings in roff.";

> > 	* Hyphenations: this makes text not searchable, and
> >           spell-checking won't work.  It's the accepted practice to
> >           just wrap the lines on word boundaries.
> 
> Not true, man -k uses the troff source for searching, which is not
> hyphenated.  Hyphenation *could* be turned off, tho.

Who mentioned manual pages, again?  I don't care for them.  I (tried
to) use sgmlformat to format my own documents, and no, I don't intend
to distribute roff versions.  I'm only interested in HTML, text and
PostScript.

print $r . "hyphenations in roff.";


Thank you very much for your helpful and informative reply.  I solved
my problem with formatting SGML into plain text myself (going through
HTML) and wanted to share the recipe with others.  What did you try to
achieve, Chuck?

--Stanislav


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