From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Wed Jun 19 20:52:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D80D15C9E39 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 20:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDD582919 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 20:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id AEBB64E653; Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:52:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" cc: freebsd-net Subject: Re: localhost woes -- help requested In-Reply-To: <74B7CCF0-967F-40B1-9818-3417CD8D1D72@punkt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <31009.1560977541.1@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:52:21 -0700 Message-ID: <31010.1560977541@segfault.tristatelogic.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6FDD582919 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rfg@tristatelogic.com designates 69.62.255.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rfg@tristatelogic.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tristatelogic.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-2.74)[ip: (-7.19), ipnet: 69.62.128.0/17(-3.60), asn: 14051(-2.84), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.tristatelogic.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.950,0]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14051, ipnet:69.62.128.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 20:52:24 -0000 In message <74B7CCF0-967F-40B1-9818-3417CD8D1D72@punkt.de>, "Patrick M. Hausen" wrote: >https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6761 Wow. Thanks for that. Quite certainly, 6.3 (part 1) is confirming that this is the way things are now, and have been, apparently since 2013. I really didn't know. Now I do. I'm not happy about it, but you can't fight City Hall. Regards, rfg