From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Oct 10 22:15:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-227.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2548D37B405 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4DD7966B0C; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:15:33 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jeremy C. Reed" Cc: Szilveszter Adam , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: advocacy/31194: freebsd.org mailing lists - configuration problem? Message-ID: <20011010221533.A2592@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200110101204.f9AC4b530689@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from reed@reedmedia.net on Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 10:54:42AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 10:54:42AM -0700, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > Also, leaving a message in limbo for several days is not exactly a > > great idea when you know that you won't accept it ever. >=20 > But I don't think this part of your comments were answered. >=20 > It seems like the mail server should not return a temporary error. > I am not sure why the 450 "Helo command rejected: Host not found" occured > after the "RCPT TO". >=20 > I believe it should occur directly at the HELO (OR EHLO) with a permanent > error, i.e.: >=20 > helo pilchuck > 500 : Helo command rejected: Host not found This would be incredibly annoying in cases of transient DNS failure. For example, suppose FreeBSD's DNS server broke, so no hostnames could be resolved. None of the incoming mail would be re-sent, and it would all be lost. Kris --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7xSr1Wry0BWjoQKURAn41AKCxUgRXI81d87fLr+5VUFAjaflTnwCdHRPw JozW8P/56YgSQQdFV8i/Rjw= =FupX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message