From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 12 21:37:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from intratec.com.mx (intratec.com.mx [200.33.246.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745C437B424; Sat, 12 May 2001 21:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Received: from mipc.intranet.com.mx (200.33.246.81) by intratec.com.mx with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0.2); Sat, 12 May 2001 23:37:18 -0600 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010512233123.026c4ec0@icsmx.com> X-Sender: jbiquez@icsmx.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 23:37:25 -0500 To: newbies@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Questions From: Jorge Biquez Subject: Re: I'm leaving In-Reply-To: <20010513135729.B97162@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <002b01c0db54$e0febaa0$5599ca3f@disappointment> <002b01c0db54$e0febaa0$5599ca3f@disappointment> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. I don't remember seeing your messages either. Anyway. I'm still a newbie and I have been working with the products for almost 2 years. Yes sometimes you won't find an answer on the list to basic things but you have the archives to consult and you have the great manuals of Greg. Besides the site is freebsd.org is VERY helpful. My recommendation is not to give up and try to solve your problems. Sooner or later you will fine the best option is to stay with FreeBSD instead all the LINUX options. One thing for sure is that most of the people here won't solve you the problem BUT will give your hints and tips so you can solve it yourself and learn that way. I like that way better. Stay with the product, read and study A LOT... you will thank yourself in the near future. JB At 13:57 13/05/01 +0930, you wrote: >[copying -questions and -newbies] > >On Saturday, 12 May 2001 at 19:31:55 -0700, N6REJ wrote: > > Due to the overwhelming lack of assitance I have gotten in the > > freebsd-newbies, questions, and here, I am leaving FBSD. I tried several > > times to get assitance for my install and each time was met with > > non-responses. > > There is one person though that I will give special mention to and that is > > susy. She and I conversed on several occasions. She was'nt able to solve > > my most necessary problem, but she was able to help me understand a few > > things and I was able to aid her. Thanks susie. > > There was another though I don't recall his name that mentioned to try ftp5 > > which I did. But those two folks out of all of you, were the only 2 who > > bothered to take any time to help someone brand new to BSD along. If you > > EVER hope to make FBSD the leading Unice, I suggest you learn how to > prevent > > this in the future. As a person who has spent 25 yrs in this biz I'm not > > easily swayed away from my endeavors, but I refuse to pound my head against > > a brick wall. > >Well, we're sorry you're dissatisfied, but I suspect you're >misunderstanding a few basic facts: > >1. The lists are run by volunteers. Nobody's obliged to answer any > question. As I say at http://echunga.lemis.com/references.html, > it's up to you to formulate mail messages that people will want to > answer. > > I personally peruse every message that goes through > FreeBSD-questions. I answer the ones that: > > a. Are well prepared. > b. Are easy to read. > c. I know how to answer. > > I can't recall seeing any message from you, which means that maybe > they didn't conform to (a) or (b). But there's another > possibility: > >2. There's only one mailing list which you should use for asking > questions of the nature you're describing, and that's > FreeBSD-questions. Given that you sent this message to -advocacy, > where it is only marginally relevant, I suspect that you might > have sent your questions to -newbies or -advocacy, both of which > don't have this kind of question on their charter. If you send > this kind of question to them, the correct response is to ignore > them, though from time to time people will reply and point you to > -questions. > >3. Ultimately, any problem you have is your own personal property. > Don't blame other people for it. > >Greg >-- >Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key >See complete headers for address and phone numbers > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message