From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Aug 26 11:01:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6AB10718CB for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 11:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdports@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 408B87B291 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 11:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdports@cloudzeeland.nl) Received: from poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.36]) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C3EFC516; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 13:01:24 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1535281284; bh=w3M9G4wZ1IWKRSlBq7NdMLGTtGl2TXtJd6wqECeFoMc=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=qbr/0bec2ZxQXI4/R4vzqP1mQz6zvTiiQuLAcjgDBulXc0GmhXe3u8Jx9lz1zM9iW RsGQahoaOmdFnPou/WToGqCAQif5aZ32DNLs04dAYipANnHvVkBaPjOmddrwdWxGvk Fpxtc0pL6B4Q8d/5uQfBagdPH3Kxv/aSZVrqq6DA= Received: from [10.10.10.34] (unknown [82.176.127.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E70EAFC515; Sun, 26 Aug 2018 13:01:23 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cloudzeeland.nl; s=cloud; t=1535281284; bh=w3M9G4wZ1IWKRSlBq7NdMLGTtGl2TXtJd6wqECeFoMc=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=qbr/0bec2ZxQXI4/R4vzqP1mQz6zvTiiQuLAcjgDBulXc0GmhXe3u8Jx9lz1zM9iW RsGQahoaOmdFnPou/WToGqCAQif5aZ32DNLs04dAYipANnHvVkBaPjOmddrwdWxGvk Fpxtc0pL6B4Q8d/5uQfBagdPH3Kxv/aSZVrqq6DA= Subject: Re: Ports vs packages To: Pete Wright , FreeBSD Ports ML References: <5e365091-6889-2f65-78ac-637a7155733a@cloudzeeland.nl> <9ff8da9a-8905-8b05-564a-a56cfb6da6af@nomadlogic.org> From: Jos Chrispijn Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 13:01:24 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ff8da9a-8905-8b05-564a-a56cfb6da6af@nomadlogic.org> Content-Language: en-GB X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on poseidon.cloudzeeland.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 11:01:28 -0000 On 26-8-2018 2:07, Pete Wright wrote: > one thing i do for my systems is if there is an update to a port i > need/want to test before the official build cluster is done is run a > "make package" in the port directory.  then i can install the updated > code as a pkg for future upgrade convenience.  this works great for > ports without many external dependencies at build-time, not so much > when things like llvm need to be build ;) I did that once myself but ended in total chaos because I found out that using ports and packages next to each other is not a good marriage. Port options that may have been enabled may be overuled by packages (which are always built using the default options). Not for a specific port but with regards to the depencies is will us (and which may already been installed as packages). I am quite a nub on this, so perhaps the problems were otherwise. Since I completely switched to packages, these issues are gone. /jos