From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 9 10:15:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25462 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25457 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-7.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA22632 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:11:38 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) id TAA04285; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:11:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: " Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:11:36 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Tom Samplonius Cc: Terry Lambert , costa@inner.cortx.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sd0 timed out while idle References: <19970707214908.44376@mi.uni-koeln.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 In-Reply-To: ; from Tom Samplonius on Mon, Jul 07, 1997 at 03:49:57PM -0700 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Jul 7, Tom Samplonius wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Stefan Esser wrote: > > The "NCR controllers" ??? > > They don't exist ... :) > > Sure do. Symbios has come down to my place and re-labeled my controlor, > and until they do, it will remain a NCR810. No, what I meant was, that NCR SCSI cards (the name I use myself for all NCR/Symbios 53c8xx based cards) are not that similar, if you look at them in sufficient detail ... Sure, there are the original NCR brand cards, but they are only a small fraction of all "NCR SCSI" cards installed. (I guess most are from ASUS, with NCR/Symbios second, and companies using the 53c875 for their high end (and other vendors' chips for non-Ultra cards) like Tekram following.) > > In fact, there are several independently developed BIOS > > versions offered with the various brands of NCR chip, > > and even my (2.5 year old) ASUS SP3G lets you specify > > an additional power on delay ... > > I have a ASUS 3P3G too, and had to lengthen the delay for the 4 drives > I put on the internal SCSI bus. Yes, my point was that this is possible by choosing the appropriate delay in the BIOS ... > > > Quatum drives are known to go on a holiday after some continuous use. > > > Grand Prix drives are particularly bad. In fact, I think the Atlas is the > > > only respectible Quantum drive. > > > > How about the quality of the Atlas II and the Viking ? > > I don't really understand, why they offer two 7200RPM > > drives, again. Reminds me of the Atlas/Grand Prix ... > > The writing is on the wall for the Atlas II, now that the Atlas III is > available. I've seen the specs of the Atlas III, and they look very convincing (near Cheetah performance at 7200RPM and thus less noisy and running cooler), but I thought they were only available much later. Can you really buy an Atlas III today ??? Regards, STefan