From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 5 21:27:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A496D15B97F2 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 21:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com) Received: from mail.tridentusa.com (mail.tridentusa.com [96.225.19.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E0A26DAF5 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2019 21:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com) Received: (qmail 67669 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2019 21:27:48 -0000 Received: from mail.tridentusa.com (172.16.0.32) de/crypted with TLSv1: DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA [256/256] DN=none by smtprelay.tridentusa.com with ESMTPS; 5 Jun 2019 21:27:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 61586 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2019 17:27:48 -0400 Received: from johnstone (HELO ?192.168.249.6?) (jjohnstone@tridentusa.com@192.168.249.6) by mail.tridentusa.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2019 17:27:48 -0400 Subject: Re: ntpd configutration -- a small suggestion from the peanut gallery To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <52339.1559763722@segfault.tristatelogic.com> From: John Johnstone Message-ID: <0d9aacc3-3ec1-edef-1aa3-924eee172b1b@tridentusa.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 17:27:48 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <52339.1559763722@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9E0A26DAF5 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com designates 96.225.19.3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jjohnstone.nospamfreebsd@tridentusa.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.22)[-0.217,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tridentusa.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.82)[-0.820,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.42)[0.424,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail1.tridentusa.com,mail.tridentusa.com]; IP_SCORE(0.24)[asn: 701(1.24), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:96.225.0.0/17, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 21:27:56 -0000 On 6/5/19 3:42 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <58688a77362d7caad70df844d5077d0916f7f944.camel@smormegpa.no>, > Matthias Oestreicher wrote: > >>> Did I just miss those ntpd death messages somehow? >> Sorry, I've never seen ntpd exit due to too big offset and I don't know how that would >> show in /var/log/messages. > > It would appear that, most probably, nobody knows what the ntpd suicide log > messages look like, because it doesn't actually produce any (contrary to > what the man page says). On recent FreeBSD versions I've seen it just silently fail to start and stay running. After powering up several HP ProLiants and setting the hardware clocks to local time before booting a FreeBSD 12 installation USB drive, I've answered No to the "CMOS clock set to UTC?" question. After picking a timezone and finishing the installation, the system completes it's first boot up but NTP is not running. Observed by service ntpd status as well as a ntpq -c sysinfo. Doing a date shows the system time set to be UTC even though it's configured for a local timezone. Manually setting the system's clock with date and starting NTP gets NTP running and synchronized after that. - John J.