From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 2 03:02:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2ADDA7890 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 03:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 460Bll4LRvz4X13 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 03:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.92.230]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M2w8Y-1hwggD46Gq-003IxK; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 05:02:06 +0200 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 05:02:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: hw Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: thunderbird in German? 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Version mismatch > >> > combined with improper or missing signing (same trouble as > >> > in FF). It seems they aren't needed anymore. > >> > >> It is my understanding that: > >> > >> a) sometime back, Mozilla did a major overhaul/upgrade of the > >> interface between Firefox and addons. As a result, all > >> third-party add-ons and many Firefox-provided add-ons > >> stopped working. > >> b) some of the add-ons (e.g. AdBlock) were rebuilt to the new > >> spec; many were not, including my personal must-have PrefBar. > > > > Yes, that probably is the case. Luckily (and thanks to search > > engines) I was able to find out how to change the interface > > language _now_. :-) > > > > Sidenote: > > > > Among the affected add-ons weren't just the german language packs, > > but also an "interface locale changer" add-on where you could change > > the interface language easily. Now this functionality is part of > > Firefox, but you need to explore _how_ it works, to prevent the > > disappointment of not being able to change the interface language. > > I think the same applies for Thunderbird. > > Ok and _how_ do you change the language in Thunderbird? I do not have a Thunderbird instance where I can check. I assume (or conclude from Firefox) that there should be something in the settings. > Changing Firefox wasn't a problem, other than that I wish I could do > that site-wide for all users rather than having to do it for each user. > Why don't these programs just honor the language settings of the > environment? Yes, that is really a problem, because so many other programs do it the right way; even temporary invocation in a different language is not a problem for "old" programs. For example, if you set a system-wide variable that applies to all users, that language variable should be honored. I see multi-language support as a great feature especially in FreeBSD, where I can use programs in the language I prefer, and that might be vary among the programs running in one session (for example, Sylpheed uses the english language, while LibreOffice uses the german one). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...