From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 6 16:25:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC5E106566B; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2978FC13; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.codelab.cz [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42DA19E027; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:25:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (r5bb235.net.upc.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37FC919E023; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:25:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4AF44DE2.2040304@quip.cz> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:25:06 +0100 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Dupre References: <200911051539.21097.oliver@realtsp.com> <4AF4110C.6060501@FreeBSD.org> <4AF4308B.4080905@quip.cz> <4AF43319.1010909@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4AF43319.1010909@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Oliver Schonrock , alistair@realtsp.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: php5-5.2.11_1 upgrade path to 5.3.0/1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:25:12 -0000 Alex Dupre wrote: > Miroslav Lachman ha scritto: >> So you don't plan to leave 5.2.x version in ports for people who need to >> maintain servers in production with many clients and many 'old' web >> applications? > > Like we don't have ports for php 5.0 and 5.1, I'll not maintain ports > for 5.2 when the switchover will take place. As you can see here > (http://www.php.net/manual/en/migration53.incompatible.php) there aren't > many incompatible changes. I know there were not repo copy of older versions of PHP, but I think this is where FreeBSD is loosing some points on "enterprise" market against some other server OS distributions. I know it is all about mans power and I am not trying to put some pressure on you. Maintaining ports is not simple task and I know you are maintainer of lot of them. I am just thinking that it would be better if we can have versions of PHP as with Apache [1.3, 2.0, 2.2] or MySQL [3.23, 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, 5.1, 5.4, 6.0 = all well maintained by you, of course ;)], or Postfix, Perl, Python... so users and companies can stick longer time with "what is well tested and working in production". (same as we have choice of FreeBSD versions ~ 6.3, 6.4, 7.1, 7.2 + 8.0 in the near future) Even if there are just a "few" incompatibilities, it means some clients applications on webhosting will stop working and clients will scream on helpline right after the update of the servers PHP... I know it is not your problem etc., it is just a real world scenario of some near future days ;) So in my opinion it would be benefical to users if ports infrastructure can handle all vendor supported branches for any port. PHP is just an example in this case. Miroslav Lachman