From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 12 01:33:43 2012 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B864E106566B; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@h2.funkthat.com) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7178FC13; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q0C1D24O064770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:13:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@h2.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id q0C1D2mK064764; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:13:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:13:02 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> To: Don Lewis <truckman@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20120112011301.GI52468@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Don Lewis <truckman@freebsd.org>, nvass@gmx.com, alfred@freebsd.org, arch@freebsd.org, adrian@freebsd.org, dougb@freebsd.org References: <4F0AB63D.2040503@gmx.com> <201201091009.q09A9NQb025487@gw.catspoiler.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201201091009.q09A9NQb025487@gw.catspoiler.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE i386 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (h2.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:13:03 -0800 (PST) Cc: arch@freebsd.org, adrian@freebsd.org, nvass@gmx.com, alfred@freebsd.org, dougb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [patch] allow crash dumps to Linux swap partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture <freebsd-arch.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>, <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>, <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:33:43 -0000 Don Lewis wrote this message on Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 02:09 -0800: > On 9 Jan, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > > On 1/9/2012 11:25 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > >> Actually I'm fairly confident that we write dumps backwards from the end > >> of the swap partition. It's done that way on purpose in case fsck'ing > >> causes the system to swap, it may still be possible to save the dump. > > > > So, dumping core is safe, but not sharing the swap area... > > It would be nice to be able to do that. > > According to the mkswap(8) man page (which hasn't been updated > since 2.2 even though the machine is running a 2.6 kernel) on a nearby > Linux machine, the metadata stored in the first page of the swap > partition. It looks like we could safely coexist if we skipped the first > page of the partition. Otherwise Linux will want mkswap to be run on the > partition before it will swap to the partition. Don't we already skip the first 8k of the swap partition because back in the day when bsdlabel's partition sector 0 was the same as the slice sector 0, and so if any FS or swap wrote to the first 8k, it would overwrite the bsdlabel? -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."