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Skuhra" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UTF-8 by default? Message-ID: <20160720204354.nqvrmkhulhekohzc@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <20160720140741.yi7vfgmmqtg6eprx@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <86vb00jbcy.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x2nljvvqvj24bzi2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86vb00jbcy.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1-neo (2016-06-11) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:43:57 -0000 --x2nljvvqvj24bzi2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:36:13PM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Baptiste Daroussin skrev: > >=20 > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:47:45AM -0230, Jonathan Anderson wrote: > >> On 20 Jul 2016, at 9:13, Tim =C4=8Cas wrote: > >>=20 > >> > So, without further ado: > >> > 1) What are the reasons that UTF-8 isn't the default yet? > >> > 2) Would it be possible to make this the default in 11.0? What about > >> > 12.0? > >> > 3) Assuming an effort is started towards making UTF-8 the default, > >> > what changes would be required? > >>=20 > >> At least according to one of my students (who makes more extensive use= of > >> i18n than I do), enabling UTF-8 by default is pretty straightforward: > >>=20 > >> https://github.com/musec/freebsd/wiki/Common-setup#utf-8-support > >=20 > > the LC_COLLATE=3DC is not needed anymore with freebsd 11+ >=20 > Weird, when I set LC_ALL or LC_COLLATE to nb_NO.UTF-8 I can no longer > run ls in $HOME. It hangs until I kill it. Same happens with > da_DK.UTF-8; no problem with sv_SE.UTF-8 or en_GB.UTF-8. >=20 > I am running FreeBSD 11.0-BETA1 i386 (r302984) and I think someone > else reported a similiar issue earlier. This has been fixed in stable/11 just a few minutes ago Best regards, Bapt --x2nljvvqvj24bzi2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXj+J4AAoJEGOJi9zxtz5app4P/2VRCc4QXMG7hTXz5o0TuVC4 uu/1cAvo4p7wT+3R9z4n4I8K65ILaQCc0BaA+3bMghMbXUcrlFV7WTP35Tg/d+JS ugPULH7l+SVlfelUg6xH94Z3w91OqQFljwoEuxrL6xA6T+4AsPcfbhmOGVcanWGY GTR4o+dyirW4YscHrBS92gr/ihX0+LGzvWLbkKzpFH+R8VgJQh2kMxIku8dAC7xS wJkzqOiep5Qjw5JJ6BrZ/9kFQFvB7UPZHrVbPhEAdsojvwPml2EaViFTLiCF9HHK Ny0Ol6X3IXPPUznHacvSBsMZQ2p5rzBqo78Eb3/y6Y+Th0Pk5cw0Jii8eEaQd8Bl usq5gxbPikF9GZ9zVc6uSPzvxE71gRS7TbK+u1isBTPZ7b3lglBvym29oNSL2IBo scvqyQDVS7GMNVQu0bhovHEzGc0018AtuZtjtipRHRax8+xT3rvxxQ+nHP11Y02H 0fboVmpxp19UbdboOeaIl5IYxApfCq8Ak1zOH69hVdhPrys7KAMtaxq79UCd2CbN X1BNa5hWs/ZY/8+w4Hb+FIOTRB36H8C7RbfzQawTUuG5KRAa4Sdi2Ea6QgkTV3C0 1wQi/9LvMMGtRR2zGl02+3ET03QZ4HiHY2RwLdhHtOCw8h+R+egD6fQMVSSsFCYw uFaUNmn0KZ36cGaK7Vfw =dxNW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x2nljvvqvj24bzi2--