From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue May 22 21:56:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4C4EB0EE1 for ; Tue, 22 May 2018 21:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot0-x230.google.com (mail-ot0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14E816AE3D for ; Tue, 22 May 2018 21:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kmacybsd@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot0-x230.google.com with SMTP id m11-v6so22831916otf.3 for ; Tue, 22 May 2018 14:56:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=0ADfEpFrvpNvElngdUC6D2oXESmtlgXTiAc/PhLd4A4=; b=glYDdav634A7WARuVTW/jLu4fStNuC9cstPn42x1Fv43Nb21vgEN/y8K/i9WEAdYH+ c0m3GYoscuABgFmQdrDYa+BdpxwBsxg0LcSSMVodiok+lU7IDppl/jKPX26jUokCEdJd Ts0p8gXEBcXSLuzuuwu/JRQIFcWtMY1MotWrGcN7aVmIf8bEr0KpW5lZxUlEXH1rVT2J 5Oqe98Xb+cPDPt4/Pv3eXu8E4hUIB2MUIBDzi78+B8QBMXBeqfi5zi/DVjjAhOPD9ctl kEfUky8A/SIdhv8BBL2/4B9ratE7g1705HEPoAlbhU0vwyr5U4qANXCXQopUGC9aA46B 7WoA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0ADfEpFrvpNvElngdUC6D2oXESmtlgXTiAc/PhLd4A4=; b=qxoMr+l6SnFKnFI0Mhhi/E014Vxc1da8fd5/nWsLUXPPWWMKiQ3KnoDtkt9Zrv25iW Att70s1PzAX8azD5NrnH/kKCAFFdpbo8Dev6fsmAZwG/YrhT3cFN0ipMzPtG8d5gKFRH 6QQGHFw017+j9zyfXlXe3oQ5llb+VLoULlJBYxzFegg7tejB7oSl9HjpJjaSPqzB8flR 6VJhM0q7Uluhdn8SNqBVGkW7p8dKLAqEDoXzQJEnwOWcK47IPULAcsvRj/K0eY0Sfsyh QHXugUkh1SErV/V0nSjMnxtvWvwEtYIU9BF9VdBPmCf7zLDSgHmDUji+4AS4BEN0QL/Z xAWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwf068RRPevGPuVlHMVsIvbI6s2pZvHlBNv4ApaiGgDNWrvesk3a cqx4oiYV0nrg23qZ7pFtVCcj4Bv9HhlUz2wCyPaLog== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZovo/Gu5SBMzLyY5Oi5xXlJSYCEuUmFRX1Ei/TLlnbQR3C+CvgjSWNpeS2TiJNpg9I88iv51Ce2b2/r+uPG9E0= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3116:: with SMTP id e22-v6mr163194otc.29.1527026216146; Tue, 22 May 2018 14:56:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kmacybsd@gmail.com Received: by 2002:a9d:3f0:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 22 May 2018 14:56:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1db36614-5381-dac6-f754-d828cee2a743@Wilcox-Tech.com> References: <20180518193009.GA88432@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20180520164011.GA6276@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <88843bfb-34de-382c-9409-83f9ad54c8c4@daemonic.se> <20180521024050.0857a787@gmail.com> <20180521170728.GA14025@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20180522011543.3f621882@gmail.com> <20180521224927.GA9925@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <1db36614-5381-dac6-f754-d828cee2a743@Wilcox-Tech.com> From: "K. Macy" Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 14:56:55 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1E_u30mVjHiTQCMexOMJdmIeZc0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver To: "A. Wilcox" Cc: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 21:56:57 -0000 > > > it makes me giggle that people still think non-amd64 is "legacy". > > i386 is alive and well - new chips are being fabbed based on the 586 > design with pci-e slots; not to mention things like the Talos and > AmigaOne for PowerPC. DRM2 doesn't support anything later than mid-Haswell. The chips in question all pre-date 2007. Users of low-volume hardware on chips from that period are welcome to continue to sustain themselves on the drm2 port just as the other 95+% of the user base will use what is now referred to as drm-next. Even by powerpc maintainers' admission DRM2 also only barely works there. I've promised Justin that I'll make drm-next work on Talos once POWER9 support is solid enough. Cheers. -M