From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 23 18:25:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453B11065676 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07978FC0C for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q0NIP4ti015427; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:25:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q0NIP3Tp015424; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:25:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:25:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Damien Fleuriot In-Reply-To: <4F180C83.9090100@my.gd> Message-ID: References: <4F180C83.9090100@my.gd> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:25:04 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:25:08 -0000 >> Allan _______________________________________________ > > > Erm, you have to realize the new installer was discussed at length here, > when 9.0 was still under development/beta/prerelease. > > > Alternatively, you could do like me and install entirely by hand: > > - boot an MFSBSD image (thanks mm@ ) > - partition your disks from there (see http://my.gd/bsd.htm for a rough > sketch on how to use gpart) > - fetch the 9.0 archives in .txz (tar.xz) format > - unpack archives with xz -d > - untar archived to the mountpoint with your new filesystems (eg: tar xf > base.tar -C /mnt) > - customize configuration files (rc.conf, fstab, root's password or SSH > key, sshd_config to allow root login temporarily) and almost like me installing previous release (FreeBSD 8) everywhere. i just made once bootable pendrive with system, lots of tools and whole system as .tar.gz files (made my own compiling from cvs) actually i add WITHOUT_SYSINSTALL=yes to make.conf so i don't build it at all. And IMHO sysinstall should not exist, while good documentation about installing BY HAND should be there. Someone that cannot install it him/herself will not be able to ever manage it after so why waste time. Do not forget that FreeBSD is for unix users, contrary to linux which is for windoze haters. Again i propose removing sysinstall altogether.