From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 17 11:42:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BA616A4B3 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906C543FAF for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8HIggjR008070 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8HIggSG018198 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h8HIggqw018197 for arch@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:42:41 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: arch@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030917184241.GA18166@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030917065127.GB4261@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030917073900.GG39788@funkthat.com> <20030917080127.GB16024@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030917180421.GH39788@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030917180421.GH39788@funkthat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: make(1): adding sort modifiers X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:42:44 -0000 On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:04:21AM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Marcel Moolenaar wrote this message on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 01:01 -0700: > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 12:39:00AM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > Marcel Moolenaar wrote this message on Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 23:51 -0700: > > > > sorted subdirectory recursion, even though it's impossible or > > > > hard to do it in the makesfiles themselves. Is this too evil? > > > > > > I always thought that sorted SUBDIR lines in the Makefile was for > > > aiding the developer in seeing what is available, and where to put > > > the new module. > > > > Yes. What's your point? > > The comment of impossible or hard made me think you were advocating > dropping the requirement of sorted SUBDIR's since make now does that. > > But assuming from your response, that was not the case. Correct. We should keep lists sorted. It's when we need to combine multiple lists that we need a hand. Having multiple platforms and a busload of NO_way options is making it hard to get the final list sorted. If make(1) can give us a hand with that, then we can also keep an eye on maintainability and readability of our makefiles. I just wanted to know if that was a bad idea or not... -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net