From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 16 18:02:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA22371 for current-outgoing; Thu, 16 May 1996 18:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22366 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 18:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cantina.clinet.fi (root@cantina.clinet.fi [194.100.0.15]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) with ESMTP id EAA08045; Fri, 17 May 1996 04:01:43 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (hsu@localhost) by cantina.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) id EAA09562; Fri, 17 May 1996 04:01:43 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 04:01:43 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199605170101.EAA09562@cantina.clinet.fi> From: Heikki Suonsivu To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of 16 May 1996 15:13:35 +0300 Subject: Re: /stand/ee Organization: Clinet Ltd, Espoo, Finland References: <8608.832243492@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" And for good reason. Let's say you've never touched UNIX before, but you load this FreeBSD thingy and, at a couple of points in the installation, it splats this goofy editor toy in your face. "OK," you say, "Another goofy editor to learn." You spend a couple of minutes learning the key set and find that it's not all that difficult (once you figure out that files can only be saved via the ESC menu :-). The point is not "how easy it is to learn", it is "how easy it is to use". People should not need to learn an editor to install an operating system, the editor needs to be obvious enough that it can be simply be used. The simplest possible job and the most important is to get out of the editor. In ee you need to type ctrl-c quit and it is not obvious from the initial screen. In pico you type ctrl-x and the instructions are in the bottom line. If possible, the editor should at least use cursor movement commands of emacs, as that is what almost all unix programs use by default, if not vi commands (but vi is not the end-user's editor, that I can say for sure :). In ee all commands seem to be completely random, they aren't even wordstar ones but completely own. I think pico is the best solution for small editor which even end-users can use without problems, but your mileage may vary. -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-0-4375360 fax -4555276 home -8031121