From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Sat Apr 10 15:39:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A82F5D0198 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valery@vslash.com) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FHfLV3V4cz3jFT for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valery@vslash.com) X-Originating-IP: 88.126.50.171 Received: from dell.vslash.com (unknown [88.126.50.171]) (Authenticated sender: valery@vslash.com) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E28D3E0006 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Arm64 Tier 1 FreeBSD 13 Phones To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org References: <0ac501e9fb3d814435950b2141bd6d9332197a71.camel@freebsd.org> From: Valery Seys Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 17:39:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0ac501e9fb3d814435950b2141bd6d9332197a71.camel@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FHfLV3V4cz3jFT X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of valery@vslash.com designates 217.70.183.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=valery@vslash.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[217.70.183.196:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.70.183.192/28]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.126.50.171:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[217.70.183.196:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[217.70.183.196:from]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.999]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vslash.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[217.70.183.196:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:39:15 -0000 On 10/04/2021 15:02, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 04:07 -0400, grarpamp wrote: >> FreeBSD Phones... >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5 >> NXP i.MX 8M Quad core Cortex-A53, 64bit ARM >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PinePhone >> Allwinner A64 ARM Quad core Cortex-A53 >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c32-QOrI4cw >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCKMxzz9cjs >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVJo9faE1fM >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV0RnWorPpQ >> >> Happy hacking :) >> > > Dream on. FreeBSD lacks the power-management infrastructure to run on > battery-operated devices. The amount of work required to get there > from here is almost unimaginable, and there are no big companies > funding that kind of work (which is how linux got all that code). > > -- Ian > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ... and even on Linux, the power management is very unstable on the PinePhone ; I tried it through 3 distros (Mobian, KDE Manjaro, GloDroid), and results are far to provide something usable for a day to day usage. Some investigations I made with Mobian on a new Pinephone having hardware issue: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=13311&pid=91835#pid91835 IMHO, the Pinephone is something like a prototype, low quality control (and low price too), but not really something reliable. But yes, FreeBSD on a smartphone would be so great !