From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 21 04:55:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA17625 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 04:55:01 -0800 Received: from cls.net (freeside.cls.de [192.129.50.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA17610 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 04:54:56 -0800 Received: by mail.cls.net (Smail3.1.29.1) from allegro.lemis.de (192.109.197.134) with smtp id ; Tue, 21 Nov 95 12:55 GMT From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Reply-To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA13591; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:55:05 +0100 Message-Id: <199511211255.NAA13591@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE now available! To: jmb@kryten.atinc.com (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:55:05 +0100 (MET) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Hackers) In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Nov 20, 95 08:03:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 2468 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan M. Bresler writes: > > i have heard horror stories about non-us > connectivity--several nets in one country reach each other by way of the > usa. is this really teh case ?? 'fraid so. This is how I get to Joerg, who's only about 150 miles down the road: === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp0) /stand 21 -> traceroute uriah.heep.sax.de traceroute to uriah.heep.sax.de (193.175.26.65), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 hermes.lemis.de (192.109.197.19) 3.522 ms 1.894 ms 1.850 ms 2 Raisdorf2.CLS.NET (192.129.50.34) 2507.263 ms 41.578 ms 41.536 ms 3 Raisdorf1.CLS.NET (192.129.50.33) 46.664 ms 45.847 ms 45.563 ms 4 Hamburg-gw22.maz.net (194.15.144.122) 79.062 ms 75.095 ms 78.143 ms 5 Hamburg1.maz.net (194.15.144.100) 78.861 ms 86.171 ms 77.156 ms 6 New-York3.NY.ALTER.NET (137.39.244.169) 181.794 ms 267.687 ms 196.079 ms 7 New-York3.NY.ALTER.NET (137.39.126.8) 176.465 ms 191.335 ms 401.232 ms 8 GW1.NYC1.ALTER.NET (137.39.100.6) 236.490 ms 193.469 ms 208.633 ms 9 104.Hssi3/0.GW1.DCA1.ALTER.NET (137.39.30.5) 427.670 ms 446.530 ms 384.081 ms 10 Vienna6.VA.ALTER.NET (137.39.100.78) 209.419 ms 265.217 ms 284.001 ms 11 Vienna1.VA.ALTER.NET (137.39.11.1) 259.622 ms 187.047 ms 397.427 ms 12 mae-east-rt2.es.net (192.41.177.252) 287.423 ms 260.292 ms 225.284 ms 13 pppl2-umd2.es.net (134.55.12.161) 316.545 ms 283.382 ms 285.055 ms 14 ipgate2.win-ip.dfn.de (192.188.33.10) 505.446 ms 336.896 ms 325.280 ms 15 * Duesseldorf7.win-ip.dfn.de (193.174.74.207) 343.652 ms 330.097 ms 16 cisco.URZ.TU-Dresden.DE (188.1.132.209) 757.769 ms 682.934 ms 619.556 ms 17 cisco.inf.tu-dresden.de (141.30.68.13) 985.252 ms 864.658 ms 777.847 ms 18 sax.sax.de (193.175.26.33) 800.826 ms * 888.216 ms 19 cisco.inf.tu-dresden.de (141.76.1.1) 998.726 ms 891.402 ms 975.781 ms 20 sax.sax.de (193.175.26.33) 1014.949 ms * 1570.435 ms 21 cisco.inf.tu-dresden.de (141.76.1.1) 1415.040 ms 1808.895 ms 1688.172 ms 22 * sax.sax.de (193.175.26.33) 947.967 ms 1640.747 ms > if so regional majordomo's need to reflect the net topology more > closely than a simple divison along political boundaries. There's also a question of net load. If you look at the figures above, you'll notice that the time from me to ipgate2.win-ip.dfn.de was under .5 second. From there to sax.sax.de (all inside Germany, in the DFN), things rapidly go to hell. I'm told that this is a normal state of affairs. Greg