From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Apr 4 18:34:32 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91D55AFC1A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 18:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.lempriere@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x935.google.com (mail-ua1-x935.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::935]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FD2WW6n1cz3nRX for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 18:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.lempriere@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x935.google.com with SMTP id g5so2971330uan.8 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 11:34:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:cc; bh=huRuSuhsH+siR4MSHkfbBE/k+ps1b0WGnjNGagsqCbI=; b=YAQ6E64Zj5qSAG/ypkpEjpxvbfmt7MUcLhW8pkYp2JvmbjvwikkEGSt0QKAXLmB7Q8 JIH3cVxS49JkPYXNig+eTSWeSQ9UIgBhWEudVQI5KIonpeiDuXg+1VIm1pncJcRYL5+5 kNQecIMhRooStl7HqIlV4Sm1pVgM/1nZZwlT+jhVky7HokIOMxNwQUYL0Lk5paUMYjmF /WyL1W05C010hOszcFKJ0yd43clTRAdBNiY9X3l9q40/OqYMI3QZhX43mEkTQzqogDp0 r0q8RwkIcidKLRAvqNa8ka8a+3gmTRmeAaMSqHh++1Fe/JjXKvqcubtRsXz0nsBYDpGs ncTw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:cc; bh=huRuSuhsH+siR4MSHkfbBE/k+ps1b0WGnjNGagsqCbI=; b=dfyMJBZlqJ5PuLp9IDIo4quVcsWP1tkR0l92IjevkjypYl20je37Cq4ihZ1rTNlfx6 jva4jEuwHWukWvFazUUCCvJkp40ZKBZOIF5ateFg7h3AOyX/Xnyh75n7HorzMh32Kwya aO3Yt8vP6gFQW5QMLyxdcFO4dJVYG9Aau+kMDaWd6GwTZQzEdmRMyDeKPtCSzkADjImr APILtPdAo5fi4P0mWICFMswg+Zz90f4s/fkGm7cOrdQuYGwc9o7G78BG8swgl9mGsj4+ yt8zf5CuUNk3PdRxEp5h4lN3rfRFPjTIZvLQJI5mDhbpyHz2vTydPkH8ggWQo+XhpGT1 PfNw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530krKQrUJrJDtqy1iyaafnaWD+VdCUcPxTcvFU/JisA4Ao19Pgv Z0m61Ob6xXId1jnX6mAuaPnfIoIT097lF6TMVPVU3kS4pm8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw6mq54ullhNP2zprQYybM2Wys3g+AjsKh5SO6clO/yNzEjoFeQ5ykZoTpWdeqHU2lj47w7y3haUoTXzmOcsPU= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:6306:: with SMTP id a6mr3895104uap.2.1617561270547; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 11:34:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mike Lempriere Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2021 11:34:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? Cc: freebsd-stable stable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FD2WW6n1cz3nRX X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=YAQ6E64Z; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mikelempriere@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::935 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mikelempriere@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.05 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.05)[-0.049]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::935:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::935:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::935:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:51:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:34:33 -0000 I'm actually in shock that you would propose such a thing! Many wysiwyg web builders still use ftp as their publishing mechanism. I'd bet that most freebsd servers out there have ftpd enabled, but of course that's just my opinion. I really wish it would do secure ftp, but that's another discussion... My vote is don't remove it from base. On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 1:40 PM Ed Maste wrote: > I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system > before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447 > (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page. > I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but it dropped > off my list. FTP is not nearly as relevant now as it once was, and it > had a security vulnerability that secteam had to address. > > I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Mike Lempriere, Perennial Vintners 206-780-2146 Vintners.net/cell/txt 206-200-5902