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Date:      Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:38:19 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@ntlworld.com>
Subject:   Re: nosh version 1.9
Message-ID:  <34F30D28-DE9B-444F-885E-F438FEEA46EC@mu.org>
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Adding lazy variable extension to sh should be relatively easy.=20

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> On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
>> On 18 October 2014 18:51, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote:
>> Very cool.
>>=20
>> Wondering about the idea of /etc/rc.conf *not* being a shell script... th=
is
>> is sort of bad imo as I can't see any other way to provide the settings
>> dynamically for the startup scripts at a glance.
>>=20
>> I'll give you an example... FreeNAS (and by extension the appliance we ar=
e
>> building at Norse) has /etc/rc.conf.local as a shell script that pulls da=
ta
>> from an sqlite database, this allows us to set various services on/off ba=
sed
>> on the contents of that sqlite database file.
>>=20
>> This in turn allows us to leverage most of the existing /etc/rc.d and by
>> extension the /usr/local/etc/rc.d files provided by ports.
>>=20
>> I'm wondering how one could still do that if /etc/rc.conf and
>> /etc/rc.conf.local were no longer scripts?
>=20
> The same way /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.local is pulled in - via
> the little snippet of stuff at the end of /etc/defaults/rc.conf , and
> this bit of config in that file:
>=20
> local_startup=3D"/usr/local/etc/rc.d" # startup script dirs.
> script_name_sep=3D" "     # Change if your startup scripts' names contain s=
paces
> rc_conf_files=3D"/etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local"
>=20
> So, we just need some method of pulling in environment variables in
> whatever order we need from whatever place we need.
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> (God, why do I know this stuff? Then I remembered -
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D17595 . God damnit.)
>=20
> The tricky bit is trying to make it so we don't call sqlite like a
> thousand times to pull out all of the environment variables for each
> invocation of an rc script.
>=20
>=20
> -adrian
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