From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Dec 12 18:10:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF84B37B401 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from web40303.mail.yahoo.com (web40303.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A5C843EC2 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from victorysoldier@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021213021012.61714.qmail@web40303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.44.215.100] by web40303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:10:12 PST Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:10:12 -0800 (PST) From: Rhett Monteg Hollander Reply-To: alasir@supereva.it Subject: Re: Cyrix CPUs, was: Re: Repeatable crash from nautilus2 To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3DF94096.AAC3EB02@alasir.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Cyrix CPUs, was: Re: Repeatable crash > from nautilus2 > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:13:27 -0500 (EST) > From: Jonathan Disher > To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Charles Swiger wrote: > > > Rhett Monteg Hollander wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > By the way, have never understood such a despise > to > > > Cyrix CPUs. They were the best integer > performers of > > > late 1990s, and quite reasonably priced. > > > > I believe the Cyrix CPUs had a slightly different > exception frame layout > > compared with a genuine Intel CPU, and tended to > cause some non-Microsoft OS'es > > to panic whenever the system lad got high or a > multithreaded app was run. > > (IIRC...) > > It wasn't limited to non-Microsoft OS's. WindowsNT > refused to > successfully install on Cyrix CPUs (and I think > Windows98 didn't work well > either)... It was specifically excluded from the NT > HCL. And I've seen > firsthand that they dislike each other. > > -j What Cyrix CPU? And what OS'es? And maybe vice versa? I do remember hard issues with WinNT 3.51 and original Win'95 when running on Cyrix 5x86\6x86 or NexGen Nx586. I agree there were some bugs in return stack and branch prediction of Cx5x86, but Intel CPUs are not bug-free, and every chip still comes supplied with a pretty errata list. Another question is quality of Microsoft OS'es and their VC++ compiler. They are still far from perfect, like 7 years ago... --- Regards, Rhett __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message