From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 18 18:10:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02141065676 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0B58FC0A for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6hjf1d0031zF43QA9iAAD2; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:10:10 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.46.159]) by OMTA24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6iGo1d00G3S48mS8kiGogW; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:16:49 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D6FB31E3035; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:10:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:10:08 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091118181008.GA16741@icarus.home.lan> References: <20091118101706.780938ba.gerrit@pmp.uni-hannover.de> <20091118180939.2691c2cd.gerrit@pmp.uni-hannover.de> <4B0430BF.4010201@barryp.org> <20091118180027.GA16477@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20091118180027.GA16477@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:10:10 -0000 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:00:27AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:37:03AM -0600, Barry Pederson wrote: > > Gerrit Kühn wrote: > > >On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:56:14 -0800 Freddie Cash wrote > > >about Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters: > > > > > >FC> > I installed a Supermicro AOC-USASLP-L8i card here some days ago. > > >FC> > Should be even cheaper than the ones you mentioned and comes with a > > >FC> > LSI chip supported by mpt driver: > > > > > > > > >I guess the version of the card I have here was actually intended to be > > >used in some kind of special Supermirco-Extension Slot. However, it fits > > >into a standard PCIe slot and works nicely there as far as I can tell. > > >Do you have the opportunity of using a riser card that would give you one > > >more slot? > > > > Those Supermicro UIO cards look like backwards PCIe cards. Do they > > come with other brackets for fitting into a PCIe slot, or did you > > have to go bracketless? > > > > The online manual at > > > > http://www.supermicro.com/manuals/other/AOC-USASLP-L8i.pdf > > > > didn't mention anything about brackets or how it'd work in PCIe slots. > > Supermicro UIO slots will adapt to whatever adapter you stick in them > which are labelled compatible with said motherboard. > > The UIO slot itself is proprietary, but provides pinout interfaces > to support both PCIe 1x, 4x, and 8x, as well as PCI (32-bit and > 64-bit), and PCI-X (presumably 100 and 133MHz). But ultimately it > depends on what board offers what pinouts through the UIO slot. > > Rather than "document it", here's how it works in the Real World(tm): > > - We need a PCIe x8 on our X7SBi for a low-profile RAID card > - X7SBi motherboard has a UIO slot: > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBA.cfm > - UIO slot on this board supports one of the following, depending > on which riser you buy: > - (1) PCIe x8 > - (1) PCI-X 133MHz (64-bit). > - Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you'll find: > - CSE-RR1U-ELi -- 1U PCI-E x8 Riser Card for X7SBi > - Visit Supermicro's Accessories page, and select Riser Cards: > http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/Riser/riser.aspx > - Search for CSE-RR1U-ELi, and you find: > http://www.supermicro.com/a_images/products/Accessories/CSE-RR1U-ELi.jpg > - Contact Supermicro distributor (whoever you got the server from, or > you can contact Supermicro directly to help find a distributor for > you) and get the CSE-RR1U-ELi. Some online retailers do sell these > risers too. > - Costs about US$11. > - Buy it, install it, mount the card in it, enjoy. By the way, I'll add that the AOC-USASLP-L8i is **not** compatible with the UIO riser/adapter for the X7SBi. This should be apparent just from examining the location of the PCIe x8 slot on the RAID card vs. where the CSE-RR1U-ELi PCIe x8 slot is located. You'll find what boards the AOC-USASLP-L8i is compatible with, UIO riser-wise, here: http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm So in general, make sure whatever Supermicro card (RAID, Ethernet, SAS, SCSI, whatever) you're going with is indeed compatible with whatever Supermicro board you stick it in. Best thing to do is contact Supermicro Technical Support and ask. Their TS folks are better than average; I can get full specifications for ICs out of them, while I've never been able to achieve this with Tyan. Rackable (who uses Tyan mainboards) might have better luck. :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |