From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Apr 27 16:24:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA5414BE6; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA95685; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:22:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Matthew Dillon Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: thanks re: kernel.debug/kernel mess! In-Reply-To: <199904272226.PAA00952@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > I would like to thank Peter and the other architects of the > new kernel/kernel.debug build methodology! Having it > generate a kernel.debug, create the debug-stripped 'kernel' > in /usr/src/sys/compile/ID/, and install the stripped version > on make install really makes life a lot easier for me and, > probably, everyone else who is compiling up debug kernels. I agree. Greg's idea was right, it's too bad that his implementation *changed* instead of *adding*. I've seen *so* many good ideas go out the door here, because folks want to force change instead of adding options. The battle over init/shtudown, doing it the BSD way versus the AT&T way, is a great example of an idea that won't fly until those involved learn to cooperate, not coerce. That said, I would like to propose one addition. If you don't like it, fine, but if there was a 'debug-install' target that did the normal install thing, then copied kernel.debug to /var/crash for me, that would be the cherry on top! Any of us could do that, but one or two dissenters here would stop me. Notice, this would change *nothing* if the user didn't specifically use that target. > > Thanks! > > -Matt > Matthew Dillon > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message