From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 20:58:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42164FD646F; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "land.berklix.org", Issuer "land.berklix.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2501736B0; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p2E52CCDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.82.204.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by land.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w9MKwVS8055417 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:58:35 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id w9MKwQwG027209; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:58:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w9MKw2dE050298; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:58:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201810222058.w9MKw2dE050298@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , ctm-users@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , Ed Maste Subject: Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.eu BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.eu/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:38:25 -0700." <201810222038.w9MKcP4L013243@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:58:02 +0200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:58:40 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: "Rodney W. Grimes" > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:38:25 -0700 (PDT) "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > -------- > > In message <201810221957.w9MJvdXx012868@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. Gri > > mes" writes: > > > > >I do not know that other than I do know that I have seen > > >one data point in the last 14 days of a user who was infact > > >using ctm though I can not associate a username/email address > > >with that memory. > > > > > >A search of the last 30 days of @freebsd.org public mail > > >may yield a hit. > > > > I think Julian Stacy is still running CTM generation ? > > Ah, yes, that brought back enough brain cells, > confirmed that is who I saw with ctm usage. Stephen Montgomery generates the CTM deltas, & sends them through the mailman lists on freebsd.org (which arent listed but are there as far as I recall) , & as he doesn't have enough space, he also rsyncs bases & deltas to the ftp repository server I host Not that many use CTM, perhaps mostly because many have unrestricted flat rate free bandwidth 24/7, so they can fetch another easier way, & partly because even where CTM really scores, for those with intermittent access or expensive data transfer (eg some mobile tarrifs perhaps), some of those people arent aware of CTM, as we havent kept up the www.freebsd.org etc docs. http://ctm.berklix.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, Computer Consultant, Systems Engineer, BSD Linux Unix, Munich. Brexit referendum stole 3,700,000 Brits votes abroad, inc. 700,000 in EU. Campaign lies, criminal funding, economy & pound down. Time for an honest ref. http://exitbrexit.uk https://www.peoples-vote.uk/petition https://eci.ec.europa.eu/002/public/#/initiative