Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:52:10 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.tfs.com> Cc: current@freebsd.org, Joerg Wunsch <joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: I plan to change ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE behaviour... Message-ID: <VlQ6dWmeMT@ache.dialup.demos.ru> In-Reply-To: <537.813852852@critter.tfs.com>; from Poul-Henning Kamp at Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:14:12 %2B0100 References: <537.813852852@critter.tfs.com>
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In message <537.813852852@critter.tfs.com> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: >> Well, I feel somewhat stuck now because I don't see any clear >> argument against *proposed* change... >Neither do I see any clear argument for the proposed change :-) Ok, I repeat it again maybe slightly different than in original message. (I suggest to read original message too, there was few words about DISABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE. Well, I suggest to read what I write maybe not each time but sometimes). Majority of users not understand (and not supposed to understand) that they need additionly setenv ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE when they set their LANG variable. They assumed that only LANG settings is enough for ls/talk/etc. work with national chars. I already tired reply to each "8bit fix" posted to -hackers this one phrase: setenv ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE. Some of such "fixes" was even sneaked to source tree and commits was backouted after my explanation. Well, maybe it isn't visible for you, but if you take responsibility on such things, it becomes visible, be shure. I assume here that user are right and it is more easy acts like he suppose than constantly teach everyone in the world. This user intention not breaks any standard, so let it be. I assume that you sometimes like to see your native language well imbedded into various FreeBSD pgms, do you really happy to type setenv ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE (well, maybe put it into .login) or explain this feature to everyone who asks instead of simple got-it-automatically when LANG is set? -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849
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