Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 11:05:59 -0800 From: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> To: Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com> Cc: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Kenneth Culver <culverk@alpha.yumyumyum.org>, "Steve B." <steveb99@earthlink.net>, "Eugene L. Vorokov" <vel@bugz.infotecs.ru>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: C vs C++ Message-ID: <3C866897.649BCC6F@mindspring.com> References: <20020305164151.T5854-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org> <3C8529DA.FA8ABCE@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20020306073237.00cd0b00@localhost> <3C8659BC.C2FD35ED@mindspring.com> <15494.23436.196349.224108@caddis.yogotech.com> <3C8661EB.934CC478@mindspring.com> <15494.25629.4763.761844@caddis.yogotech.com>
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Nate Williams wrote: > > Again, that's subjective to you. I've been doing C++ for > > about 20 years now > > I find that *really* hard to believe, since C++ hasn't been out for that > long. :) :) :) > > (I've got Stroustrup's book next to me, and it wasn't even started until > '85, and I don't know when the first C++ compiler became publically > available.) I'm rounding... 8-). We had "cfront" and "The Oregon C++ Compiler" back in the early 1980's (definitely before 1985, since I was working by then). > > The other advantage is that the C++ code ran in a known, > > deterministic amount of memory on an embedded system; > > Java VM's, even Kaffe, seem to want to take at least 8M > > of memory. > > Kaffe wasn't a good implementation of the VM. However, I will state > that the minimum size was quite large. (No worse than most other > interpreted languages). However, it didn't have to get any bigger. I > had a server that server 400 real-time clients running in under 24MB on > a Sparc/RISC platform. The costs are much less if you can share a JVM, that's true. But comparing the Sun JVM with the Kaffe, I've actually never seen the Sun JVM smaller. Kaffe is really surprisingly small-footed for a JVM. 8-). > > The same project also served to show that a Cathedral > > builds significantly better code than a Bazaar. > > You're not going to get *any* argument from me on that one (I agree with > you), but I'm *NOT* going to get sucked into that discussion. :) Heh. You're no fun... 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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