From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 28 16:30:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE7B16A4CE for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:30:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE91243D48 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:30:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.201] ([192.168.254.201]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2SGSLgF000963; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:28:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <424830AC.7090309@samsco.org> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:28:28 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050321 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <34230.1112027190@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <34230.1112027190@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: "current@freebsd.org" cc: vova@fbsd.ru cc: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: Julian Elischer cc: ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: Reattach/redetect allways connected umass device - is it possible ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:30:33 -0000 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <42481C66.7090409@samsco.org>, Scott writes: > > >>So are you saying that an async notification mechanism needs to be >>invented for SCSI, or that all SCSI users should be required to use >>SES or SAFTE enclosures for all SCSI devices, or that we should be like >>Windows and constantly poll the devices? > > > I don't care _how_ we make CAM/SCSI behave like the users expect. > Well, I waved my hands at it for a few minutes, but nothing changed... hmm.... =-) My question to you was partially rhetorical, since a good solution just doesn't exist. Even the polling option isn't good because it will disrupt things like burning CD's; in Windows, the CD burning software packages that are out there go through an impressive set of hoops to deal with this polling problem. Scott