Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:28:21 +0100 From: Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl> To: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The strangeness called `sbin' Message-ID: <20111111112821.GP2164@hoeg.nl> In-Reply-To: <4EBC4B6E.4060607@FreeBSD.org> References: <20111110123919.GF2164@hoeg.nl> <4EBC4B6E.4060607@FreeBSD.org>
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--QFliEIXSSz7hGqqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Doug, * Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, 20111110 23:08: > On 11/10/2011 04:39, Ed Schouten wrote: > > I suspect this email could be one of the last emails I'm sending before > > one of you hire an assassin to get rid of me, but here it goes. >=20 > Au contraire, I think your work on improving the general quality of our > code has earned you many many brownie points, so you're far from being > run out of town on a rail. :) Thanks. :-) > This particular proposal though I personally am confused about, and I > apologize if I missed something obvious, but what is the value of making > this change? I've read the thread so far, and I understand that the > hysterical raisins that prompted the creation of sbin may or may not > still apply, but I haven't yet understood what we would gain by moving > everything. Simplicity. Right now we have binaries executed by users installed in five different places. I give bachelor courses on (embedded) Linux/FreeBSD systems administration and software development and explaining to them why it is done this way is getting tiresome. But the point is: there are quite some tools in */sbin that should be moved to */bin. I can at least point out 15 of them. Moving these tools around requires the same amount of effort as simply getting rid of sbin. If I have to decide on which of these to work, I'd choose the latter, because as far as I know, sbin has no reason to exist anyway. Also, it probably causes even less of a burden on our users, because `make installworld' will simply force them to migrate, while if we move binaries around, we can only hope that the user runs `make delete-old'. --=20 Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl> WWW: http://80386.nl/ --QFliEIXSSz7hGqqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOvQbVAAoJEG5e2P40kaK7Dl4P/3UN3Wbfpe63BfyFSvbbE81p lVG0Vaj7kCWiRsmlGzENGt9jLzgjZ+wVZpKzN1t3B4bXcYMDxvcwYFEUlwucemG4 x7YAwUkZd+wYBo6vc9TgTz272JYvB0/aasWQwSo/QUShNTgQ2Mk6pTdANdTVL78O iTk8wwaHpDSKqxLpL7zKWeEuKTsLc1EiT278ZIoPAImUO1+na9nm5C4LTvS0aM5W xIi/GeaQTyplBAEBzzjjhlxTLX2XSW6Q9NLbVSpxZVI3IoCSeDTe+eMkp2BmU/8Q FviNBR0EkebQfalf6DMWfW26pid5hLPAMFqmhBmPWHTEi+DQ4yGHdq3XsdnoCrVD a+k1azVVMo+2tTn1gybBr/Y7FcZdwR3OFoykts7SRjdudyr2IaDkyM3Y9c37fB6W GQFz0FW7HuKMppa6anSDsgYUoUQoP4Eu38jESh7jH3L2Fhdn9JyVNaKtutR6qza/ RrRzXmJnZ8bh0cE3ezz0MRGahVQh+wrJdfJQEjSW42nlsqD/zGfQL2nVrGpgElxO gz1au4/oDjiPVmQHzSy9ikxMTCHW8c4DoEeRawTwKEZlpOVjHR8W7e9sHfEzgUcY GU2p6RhhaflLATMZsgFiXvLktWsbGp700Lmmg4tlEFh/deaj0oiDZ4z3aEt9jZgi cF9qcOesS6b5sqFPmZWX =VKHO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QFliEIXSSz7hGqqc--
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