From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 22:17:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36DC16A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:17:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.server.rpi.edu (smtp4.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C8E43D2D for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:17:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp4.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j1AMHBqY030787; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:17:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005b01c50fb8$964ff9f0$6601a8c0@woodstock> References: <005b01c50fb8$964ff9f0$6601a8c0@woodstock> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:17:10 -0500 To: Tom Mecke , From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Subject: Re: changing logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:17:14 -0000 At 3:36 PM -0600 2/10/05, Tom Mecke wrote: > >Many people may think twice about donating money to the project >if you are worrying about trivial complaints about a cute little >"daemon" logo instead of directing energy all to the project! Oooo. I work on FreeBSD for free. I get zero money from it. All I am saying is I would like to see what other logos someone might come up with -- if we gave them a chance. Oh, and how much $$$ have you donated to FreeBSD? Me? Not only have I worked for free, but I have donated more than $1,000 of my own money to FreeBSD over the years. And actually, if you count work that I paid someone else to do for FreeBSD (but which never quite worked out), I have spent over $10,000 in just the past two years for FreeBSD. So, imagine how little I care about whatever threat you fantasize you are making. I am paid to work on Linux (and MacOS 10, to some extent). I would be just as happy and much much better off financially if I left FreeBSD alone, and concentrated on my full-time job. I am paid to work on Linux. I am not paid to work on FreeBSD. That summarizes just how well the Beastie icon, by itself, draws vast sums of money to the FreeBSD project. If you are really so utterly deranged that you REFUSE to donate money to a HIGH QUALITY OPEN-SOURCE OPERATING SYSTEM, *unless* it has a cute-daemon for it's one-and-only logo, then please go away. It is just as stupid and close-minded to DEMAND that we never consider any other logos. If you're that attached to a cartoon icon of our Mascot, then mail your money to someone who draws cute daemon figures, and don't waste your time claiming that you care about the actual operating system. Also note that the Beastie isn't actually going away. He's still going to be considered the official mascot of the project. My guess is that whatever the logo is, there won't be any cute dolls made of it, so Beastie will always have a place in the project. It would just be nice to have some other official logo, one which could be more easily used in some settings. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA