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Date:      Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:37:15 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
To:        Bosko Milekic <bmilekic@unixdaemons.com>
Cc:        "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org>, net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: virtually contig jumbo mbufs (was Re: new zero copy sockets snapshot)
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Bosko Milekic writes:
 > 
 > On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 10:45:50AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote:
 > > 
 > > Bosko Milekic writes:
 > >  > 
 > >  > On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 10:14:05AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote:
 > >  > > I think this would be fine, But we'd need to know more about the
 > >  > > hardware limitations of the popular GiGE boards out there.  We know
 > >  > > Tigon-II can handle 4 scatters, but are there any that can handle 3
 > >  > > but not four?
 > >  > 
 > >  >   Why would you need 4?  I can absolutely guarantee that a jumbo buf
 > >  >   will not go over 3 pages (on i386, and 2 pages on alpha).
 > >  > 
 > > 
 > > Perhaps I misread your earlier message.  I thought you wanted to be
 > > free to align them on something other than a page boundary, so as to
 > > not waste so much space.  In that case you'd need 4 scatters on i386,
 > > right? 
 > 
 >   All I meant was that I wouldn't guarantee that the buffer _begins_ at
 >   a page boundary.  However, it still should only span at most 3 pages
 >   on i386.  Let's say for the sake of argument that we won't need more
 >   than 9212 bytes for a jumbo buffer.  Let's make the buffer 4 bytes
 >   bigger so that we'll have space for a ref. counter for it too (how
 >   convenient), so we'll allocate buffers of 9212 + 4 = 9216 bytes.  It's
 >   time to allocate from the map: I'll try to grab 9 pages for a total
 >   of 4 jumbo buffers each spanning at most 3 pages (this is i386).  I'll
 >   start the first buffer at the beginning of the first page and it'll
 >   end ((9216 - 8192) = 1024) bytes into the third page.  I'll then start
 >   the second jumbo buffer there and finish it 2048 bytes into 5th page.
 >   I would then start the 3rd jumbo buffer there and finish it 3072 bytes
 >   into the 7th page.  The last jumbo buf would start there and finish at
 >   the end of the 9th page.  If my calculations are correct, that means
 >   that each jumbo buffer would span exactly 3 pages, but only the first
 >   one in the grouping would begin at a page boundary.  There is also
 >   minimum wastage here.  Briefly:
 > 
 >   Assuming that size_of_buf >= 2 * PAGE_SIZE, this is the above:
 >   
 >   PAGE_SIZE % (size_of_buf - 2 * PAGE_SIZE) == 0
 > 
 >   We pick size_of_buf as small as possible but enough to accomodate the
 >   MTU and, and if possible, the ref. counter.  I think 9216 should be a
 >   good number.  At the same time, we try to make:
 > 
 >   bufs_per_bucket = PAGE_SIZE (integer DIV) (size_of_buf - 2 * PAGE_SIZE)
 > 
 >   bufs_per_bucket fairly reasonable (i.e., not too big).  In the above
 >   scenario, size_of_buf = 9216 and bufs_per_bucket = 4.
 > 
 >   Admittedly, the numbers above were cooked up, but I think that they're
 >   fairly reasonable.

That looks great.  I hadn't realized that things would divide out so
cleanly!

I think you should go for it after talking to wpaul & pdeuskar (and
anybody else who maintains GiGE drivers these days).

Drew


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