From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sat May 19 20:56:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DB1EE3C1C; Sat, 19 May 2018 20:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0812C7FA74; Sat, 19 May 2018 20:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w4JKuoXK017439; Sat, 19 May 2018 13:56:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w4JKumb8017438; Sat, 19 May 2018 13:56:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201805192056.w4JKumb8017438@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r333880 - head/sys/kern In-Reply-To: <6814.1526761972@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 13:56:48 -0700 (PDT) CC: Warner Losh , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Warner Losh , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 20:56:55 -0000 > -------- > In message > , Warner Losh writes: > > >> > Log: > >> > Restore the all rights reserved language. > > "All Rights Reserved" is boilerplate from the old "Buenos Aires" I believe that boilerplate is the wrong term here, it was a requirement of that convention to use this phrase if you wanted to be protected by the Buenos Aires convention. > copyright convention, (a purely N+S American affair) and it lost > all meaning and relevance for UCB when USA ratified the Berne > Convention 60 years ago. The US ratify Berne in 1989 would not mean you should stop asserting this clause, as if you wanted protection to apply in non-Berne, but Buenos Aires contries you would need the "All rights reserved." The only point at which you would really want to stop applying this would be after 2000 when all countries of the Buenos Aires convention had signed onto the Berne, thus making the Buenos Aires truely obsolete. I know these are fine hair splitting details, but that is how law tends to work out. > The final Buenos Aires signatory joined Berne a couple of decades > ago, rendering the convention null and void, and therefore this > boilerplate has no meaning or relevance for anybody. We understand that, but to remove it you technically do need the permission of the person who placed it there, as though the conventions in copyright no longer recognise this as having any meaning, law, especially US law, do recognize this as a valid assertion of rights. This would especially hold true as UCB placed this on these files *after* the us adopted the Berne convention, and before Nicaragu signed it in 2000. > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org