From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 17: 1:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smart.visp-europe.psi.com (smart.visp-europe.psi.com [212.222.105.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4802237B7E4; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jnickelsen@acm.org) Received: from ip186.berlin70.pub-ip.de.psi.net ([154.15.70.186] helo=goting.jn.berlin.snafu.de) by smart.visp-europe.psi.com with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 13O7hC-0007hD-00; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 02:01:38 +0200 Received: by goting.jn.berlin.snafu.de (Postfix, from userid 100) id B7DFB227C; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 02:01:18 +0200 (CEST) To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hacker v/s cracker References: <20000813201719.A4355@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <20000813173219.X48327@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> From: Juergen Nickelsen Date: 14 Aug 2000 02:01:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: Ben Smithurst's message of "Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:32:19 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 31 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Canyonlands" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ben Smithurst writes: > Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > > What is the freebsd policy on using the word "hacker"? Most old world > > "hackers" seem to prefer the term "cracker" for people who break > > into systems. FreeBSD has a -hackers list which is obviously not > > for vandals, but the security section of the handbook also refers to > > people who break in as "hackers". Is that appropriate? > > It certainly isn't. I'll change that to "attackers" unless anyone > objects, since that's used a lot elsewhere in the security section and > in the security(7) man page. "Intruder" is also user a lot, but I think > "attacker" sounds more appropriate. Personally I try to keep using the word "hacker" in the Jargon File sense. This is in my context (I am a networking consultant in a company in Germany) sometimes difficult, as "hacker" is there often used for the attacker or intruder, and I don't always want to burden the discussion by beginning with a proper definition of the word "hacker" and why I want to use it this way and not the other. On the other hand, in documents I write I always use the words "attacker" or "intruder" (or their German equivalents, respectively) because this avoids any ambiguity and fits the level of style of these documents better. [Please CC me as long as necessary -- I don't read freebsd-doc.] -- Juergen Nickelsen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message