From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 21:20:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0232816A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-in.m-online.net (svr8.m-online.net [62.245.150.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962F643FA3 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:20:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from h@schmalzbauer.de) Received: from mail.m-online.net (svr14.m-online.net [192.168.3.144]) by svr8.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB85F1501; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:20:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (ppp-62-245-233-23.mnet-online.de [62.245.233.23]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC5C18F9F; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:20:25 +0100 (CET) From: Harald Schmalzbauer To: Steve Kargl Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:20:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <200311170439.13103@harrymail> <200311170541.09527@harrymail> <20031117050846.GB96991@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20031117050846.GB96991@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> X-Birthday: 06 Oktober 1972 X-Name: Harald Schmalzbauer X-Phone1: +49 (0) 163 555 3237 X-Phone2: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_ZqFu/57IATBgqqJ"; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200311170620.25069@harrymail> cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:20:33 -0000 --Boundary-02=_ZqFu/57IATBgqqJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 17 November 2003 06:08, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > Content-Description: signed data > > > On Monday 17 November 2003 05:25, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:39:08AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > > > Content-Description: signed data > > > > > > > Next I'd like to report is what I already mentioned in "ULE and very > > > > bad responsiveness" I followed Jeff Roberson hint and ran > > > > setiathome with nice 20. But this didn't really change anything. > > > > > > ULE has been rock solid for me since Jeff's last > > > major update. Of course, I run neither setiathome > > > nor KDE. > > > > Give setiathome a try! You'll be astonished. > > No thanks. It's a waste of CPU cycle. Well, certainly you're rigth. But I have spare cycles and with 4BSD schedul= er=20 they were handled very well. > > > And I'm sure the difference I _feel_ isn't dependend on kde. If you > > don't like kde replace it with our favourite wm/desktop. > > I prefer fvwm2. ULE works fairly well. > > > But you won't be able to play two mid to high-quality > > mpegs at the same time on a 1GHz machine where 4BSD scheduler does very > > well! > > I can assure you that the numerical simulations I run, along with > the "make worlds", and compilations of gcc's tree-ssa branch > stress the system. I re-install over 100 ports today and the > load average was rarely below 5. I was use linux-opera and > knews and sylpheed and several other program and noticed > nor degradation in responsiveness. Does seti cause a problem > if you are not running X (or KDE). Yes. The difference is the same. Like I originally mentioned (on one single= =20 cons25) with seti in the background (doesn't matter if nice is 15 or 20) it= 's=20 almost impossible to wait until a "make clean" of a port with little=20 dependencies (like nvidia-driver) finishes. > > > I haven't claimed ULE to be unstable though. I just wanted to highlight > > some issues which will be a big problem if 5.2-releas will have ULE as > > default! > > If ULE is destined to be the default scheduler in 5-stable, then > we need to have more people test it. I can copy that. That's the reason why I started to try ULE. The notes in t= he=20 kernel didn't convince me really;) It was a thread in a newsgroup and after= =20 posting my problems Kris told me to post in -current. Best regards, =2DHarry --Boundary-02=_ZqFu/57IATBgqqJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/uFqYBylq0S4AzzwRAnPXAJ9rh0beDMuvPBsFb/oISi/EQ8uPeACfS1Pe pk3cIElGLPcBbqk6DaU/xfg= =91TN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_ZqFu/57IATBgqqJ--