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questions-digest         Saturday, 10 February 1996     Volume 01 : Number 500

In this issue:
Re: curious
4_questions
Re: ISDN devices supported?
Installation With Drive Overlay
Re: curious
RE: Unexplained segfaults in 2.1.0-RELEASE
Re: autoreply? howto?
Re: Cyrix 586 vs. Pentium for FreeBSD?
Re: please help
raw newbie povray question
Re: Netscape's lock
Re: Installation With Drive Overlay
Re: ISDN devices supported?
Re: Netscape's lock
need help on freebsd installation
New user Qs
Netscape 2.0
Word Perfect 6.0 Demo

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Dufault <dufault@hda.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 05:48:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: curious

> 
> Greg Kopp stands accused of saying:
> > 
> > I'm just a bit curious. I know FreeBSD is based on 4.4BSD-Lite, but how
> > close are either of these to the current commercial release of BSD/OS 2.0?
> > I'm sure the underlying code is much different, but what about the user
> > interface? The reason I ask is I'm considering buying BSD/OS 2.0, but I
> > want to be familiar with it. I've used Linux, although not extensively.
But
> > again, not knowing anything about BSD, I don't know how close that even is
> > to BSD/OS 2.0.

The user interface is outside of the base OS (other than the FreeBSD
specific install mechanism) and the same selections will be available
on both FreeBSD and BSD/OS 2.0.  System administration will be similar.
Purchasing the FreeBSD CDROM from WC and the O'Reilly books mentioned in the
FreeBSD bibliography will be a good way to get started on either system.
If you have a web browser point it at www.freebsd.org.

You may find that FreeBSD works well, is well supported and is
suitable for your application and stick with it.  In any case the
experience will be appropriate if you elect to use BSD/OS.

> If you're planning on buying BSD/OS, why the _hell_ are you asking here?

Please.  He said he is considering buying BSD/OS and he is expressing
curiousity about FreeBSD.  Makes sense to me.

> 
> > *             Greg Kopp - Garfield Heights, Ohio                 *
> > *  Gun Owner-Ham Radio Operator-Model Railroader-Graphic Artist  *
>      ^^^^^^^^^
> Then again, maybe this explains it.

Being a gun owner in the US doesn't explain much of anything.
There are plenty of them on this list - some of us even hail from
Montana.  Now a Ham Radio Operator-Model Railroader...

- -- 
Peter Dufault               Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation
HD Associates, Inc.         Voice: 508 433 6936
dufault@hda.com             Fax:   508 433 5267

------------------------------

From: Vladimir Gordyunin <vsg@u8.mipt.rssi.ru>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:47:13 0000
Subject: 4_questions

Help!

I've install FreeBSD at first times. When I've compiled some applications I've
met whith following problems.

1:> cc: Compilation of header file requested --xsnow application

2:>     In file included from AxeEditor.c:58:
  >      /usr/include/stdio.h:244: conflicting types for `sys_errlist'
  >      AxeEditor.c:56: previous declaration of `sys_errlist'

                                       -- in aXe-6.1.2 application

3:>     "Makefile", line xxx: Need an operator
  >     ......................................
  >     ......................................
  >     "Makefile", line xxx: Need an operator

When I send mail :" mail user < file_name " are appearanced following
responses
>       stty: TIOCGETD: Inappropriate ioctl for device
>       stty: TIOCGETD: Inappropriate ioctl for device

But mail is sent.
  
Question:       Can anybody explain me what are this 
                and how I can this troubles remove ?
                Manual don't take me any method.

				Thanks.		Vlad Gordyunin.



------------------------------

From: hm@altona.hamburg.com (Hellmuth Michaelis)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:49:38 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: ISDN devices supported?

>From the keyboard of francis yeung:

> 	Or any ISA ISDN cards that support CAPI which is used by
> 	the current ISDN driver. The German ISDN cards all support
> 	CAPI which is developed 


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questions-digest         Saturday, 10 February 1996     Volume 01 : Number 500

In this issue:
Re: curious
4_questions
Re: ISDN devices supported?
Installation With Drive Overlay
Re: curious
RE: Unexplained segfaults in 2.1.0-RELEASE
Re: autoreply? howto?
Re: Cyrix 586 vs. Pentium for FreeBSD?
Re: please help
raw newbie povray question
Re: Netscape's lock
Re: Installation With Drive Overlay
Re: ISDN devices supported?
Re: Netscape's lock
need help on freebsd installation
New user Qs
Netscape 2.0
Word Perfect 6.0 Demo

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Dufault <dufault@hda.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 05:48:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: curious

> 
> Greg Kopp stands accused of saying:
> > 
> > I'm just a bit curious. I know FreeBSD is based on 4.4BSD-Lite, but how
> > close are either of these to the current commercial release of BSD/OS 2.0?
> > I'm sure the underlying code is much different, but what about the user
> > interface? The reason I ask is I'm considering buying BSD/OS 2.0, but I
> > want to be familiar with it. I've used Linux, although not extensively.
But
> > again, not knowing anything about BSD, I don't know how close that even is
> > to BSD/OS 2.0.

The user interface is outside of the base OS (other than the FreeBSD
specific install mechanism) and the same selections will be available
on both FreeBSD and BSD/OS 2.0.  System administration will be similar.
Purchasing the FreeBSD CDROM from WC and the O'Reilly books mentioned in the
FreeBSD bibliography will be a good way to get started on either system.
If you have a web browser point it at www.freebsd.org.

You may find that FreeBSD works well, is well supported and is
suitable for your application and stick with it.  In any case the
experience will be appropriate if you elect to use BSD/OS.

> If you're planning on buying BSD/OS, why the _hell_ are you asking here?

Please.  He said he is considering buying BSD/OS and he is expressing
curiousity about FreeBSD.  Makes sense to me.

> 
> > *             Greg Kopp - Garfield Heights, Ohio                 *
> > *  Gun Owner-Ham Radio Operator-Model Railroader-Graphic Artist  *
>      ^^^^^^^^^
> Then again, maybe this explains it.

Being a gun owner in the US doesn't explain much of anything.
There are plenty of them on this list - some of us even hail from
Montana.  Now a Ham Radio Operator-Model Railroader...

- -- 
Peter Dufault               Real-Time Machine Control and Simulation
HD Associates, Inc.         Voice: 508 433 6936
dufault@hda.com             Fax:   508 433 5267

------------------------------

From: Vladimir Gordyunin <vsg@u8.mipt.rssi.ru>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 10:47:13 0000
Subject: 4_questions

Help!

I've install FreeBSD at first times. When I've compiled some applications I've
met whith following problems.

1:> cc: Compilation of header file requested --xsnow application

2:>     In file included from AxeEditor.c:58:
  >      /usr/include/stdio.h:244: conflicting types for `sys_errlist'
  >      AxeEditor.c:56: previous declaration of `sys_errlist'

                                       -- in aXe-6.1.2 application

3:>     "Makefile", line xxx: Need an operator
  >     ......................................
  >     ......................................
  >     "Makefile", line xxx: Need an operator

When I send mail :" mail user < file_name " are appearanced following
responses
>       stty: TIOCGETD: Inappropriate ioctl for device
>       stty: TIOCGETD: Inappropriate ioctl for device

But mail is sent.
  
Question:       Can anybody explain me what are this 
                and how I can this troubles remove ?
                Manual don't take me any method.

				Thanks.		Vlad Gordyunin.



------------------------------

From: hm@altona.hamburg.com (Hellmuth Michaelis)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:49:38 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: ISDN devices supported?

>From the keyboard of francis yeung:

> 	Or any ISA ISDN cards that support CAPI which is used by
> 	the current ISDN driver. The German ISDN cards all support
> 	CAPI which is developed in Germany. However, I have a hard
> 	time in ordering  one here in US.

The "CAPI"'s supplied for the ISDN boards are TSR's for MS-@#$ and are
not usable under FreeBSD.

Some intelligent ISDN boards have a more or less stripped down CAPI in
firmware, but these implementations have not much in common with the 
CAPI specs and are provided to make the programming of the real CAPI
easier.

There is a CAPI 1.1 and 2.0 spec available for Unix, but it is STREAMS
based and - because CAPI is a spec to interface a particular hardware
to a programming interface - it must be written for every piece of 
hardware.

So i doubt we ever get a CAPI interface for *BSD although it would be
a very good thing to have.

hellmuth
- -- 
Hellmuth Michaelis           hm@altona.hamburg.com              Hamburg,
Europe
                                              (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nstall BSD
?

------------------------------

From: Lague <lague@hargray.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 10:37:00 -0500
Subject: Installation With Drive Overlay

I have something called "Drive Overlay" installed on my HD.  It lets me 
access my entire Hard Drive under MS-DOS.  I am interested in installing 
FreeBSD with BootEasy but am cautious.  I believe, if I install 
BootEasy, it will modify the boot record, correct?  And If it does, will 
I loose access to my DOS partition?  Is there some workaround for this? 
 Maybe I could boot from the Dynamic Drive Overlay Partition and then it 
would boot DOS?

Thank you for anything,
Lague

------------------------------

From: Nate Williams <nate@sri.MT.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 09:33:34 -0700
Subject: Re: curious

> > > *             Greg Kopp - Garfield Heights, Ohio                 *
> > > *  Gun Owner-Ham Radio Operator-Model Railroader-Graphic Artist  *
> >      ^^^^^^^^^
> > Then again, maybe this explains it.
> 
> Being a gun owner in the US doesn't explain much of anything.
> There are plenty of them on this list - some of us even hail from
> Montana.

Who have lots of guns.  And use them.  To shoot small cute furry
woodland creatures.  And eat them.  And even enjoy it. :)



Nate

------------------------------

From: Jake Hamby <jehamby@lightside.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 08:37:08 -0800
Subject: RE: Unexplained segfaults in 2.1.0-RELEASE

- ----------
From: 	David Kirchner
Sent: 	Friday, February 09, 1996 10:47 PM
To: 	Luis Verissimo
Cc: 	Freeman P. Pascal IV; FreeBSD Hackers list; questions@freebsd.org
Subject: 	Re: Unexplained segfaults in 2.1.0-RELEASE

On Fri, 9 Feb 1996, Luis Verissimo wrote:

> I have a 486DX4-100 machine running FreeBSD-2.1R. I experienced the =
same=20
> problems. I had to disable both the internal and external caches, of =
my=20
> machine. It then worked find.
>=20
> I have another 486DX2-66 older machine, that keeps getting those =
signals,=20
> even with both caches disabled.=20

	That problem happened to me as well, those wouldn't happen to be AMD=20
CPU's would they? Mine is a 486DX4-120 and I didn't only get segfaults, =
I=20
got drive errors. AMD suggests in the FAQ it's due to people =
overclocking=20
their CPUs, but I haven't done that personally. They also say if you put =

the clock back to normal, it'll work again.

	I'm Cc:'ing this to questions and hackers, feel free to change the=20
Cc list if you want. =3D)

- -- David Kirchner
- -- dpk@eskimo.com

I have an AMD DX4-100 and haven't had any trouble with it.  Curiously, I =
put together an AMD DX4-120 PCI system for my Internet provider, and we =
couldn't get it to boot FreeBSD (or even DOS reliably!) it would =
complain of CRC errors when un-gzipping the boot floppy kernel.  We =
figured it was cheap underspec RAM we had bought (do you need 60ns for a =
DX4-120?) so we clocked it down to 100MHz and it has worked perfectly =
ever since!  YMMV of course...

- ---Jake



------------------------------

From: Piero Serini <piero@strider.free.it>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 18:35:03 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Re: autoreply? howto?

Hello.

Quoting from Jeffrey Wheat (Thu Feb  8 19:58:46 1996):
> 	I'm sure this is a dumb question, but I'll ask anyhow... How do I
> set up sendmail to automatically email a response to a user? I want to be 
> able to send mail to somealias@myhost.com and have it send a text file back
> to the sender. Any help appreciated.

I think you'll find useful to check out
http://www.free.it/FAQs/archive_servers.html

Bye,
- --
#        $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $
Piero Serini                                            Via Giambologna, 1 
<Piero@Free.IT>                                     I 20136 Milano - ITALY

------------------------------

From: "John A. Booth" <john@ulantris.infinop.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:13:58 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Cyrix 586 vs. Pentium for FreeBSD?

> I noticed a slew of manufacturers are using Cyrix 586's in the most recent
> line of notebook computers instead of Pentiums.  I've had a _really_ bad
> Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Cyrix 586?  If so, any problems that you

I've got one at home, it detects or did detect as a 486 processor--the
install went ok, and it seems to work ok--although I don't use my home
system enough to worry about--ie I've had it on for most of 3 hours...so
this isn't really a good test...


------------------------------

From: John Brann <jbrann@panix.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:41:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: please help

Elizabeth J Gentile wrote...
> 
> Hello, I have some questions I hope you can answer:
> 
> I am installing FreeBSD 2.1 on my Toshiba 400CDT portable computer.

I have a 415CS - nice box.

> 
> My CDRom drive is not supported, so I need to copy the necessary 
> directories to my hard drive.

Bummer.  I suspected it might not be, which is why I didn't buy one.

> 
> 1. Which dirs are required for the X-Developer distribution?

Well, you'll need everything in 'bin' and 'manpages' are pretty essential.
The 'src' directory conatins all the source code and XF86312 the X-Windows
stuff.  The X distribution is very large, I think you'll need the following:

X312SVGA.tgz, X312bin.tgz, X312ctrb.tgz, X312fnts.tgz, X312lib.tgz

as a minimum.  As before, include the man pages (X312man.tgz) if you have
room.

The SVGA server works fine with the C&T video card in your Toshiba.

> 
> 2. And if I copy the entire CD-Rom to my hard disk, will it only install the

> options for the X-Developer distribution, or will the install program 
> expand ALL of the files it finds on the hard disk I am installing from 
> (like a FULL installation) ?

No, it picks out the stuff you need.  Trouble is, I don't think you'll have
the space.  What disk have you got?  Bearing in mind that you'll have the 
distributions in one partition and the system in another, the disk demands 
of a full install get very heavy. In my case the 770ish Mb disk is split 
about 50-50 for Win95 and FreeBSD.  This douldn't allow me to copy the
whole CD-ROM onto my FAT partition, and also didn't leave enough space for
an 'everything' install of FreeBSD.

> 
> 3. Are PCMCIA modems supported, or only serial ones?

Only serial at present.  PCMCIA stuff is in alpha.  I haven't looked at it
yet.

> 
> 4. How do I install additional pieces later without re-installing the 
> whole system?

I normally use one of the pre-defined install options first and then use
the following procedure to make additions.

Use the 'custom' option from the install menu and do the following:

go into 'disklabel' and tell it where to mount the slices

select the parts of the distribution I am adding (but not stuff I've
already installed, don't select 'bin' again, for instance)

commit.

The only thing that gets re-done is the /dev directory.  No harm in that.

On my notebook I installed the 'kernel developer' distribution first and
added X in the subsequent pass.
> 
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
> 
You're welcome.  If I can be any more help, feel free to ask.

John

- -- 
Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s

------------------------------

From: john@starfire.mn.org
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 12:48:44 -0600 (CST)
Subject: raw newbie povray question

(Using the povray-2.2 package from from the FreeBSD 2.1 CD)
When I run povray with any +F, I get a data.dis file, of which "convert" says:
convert data.dis data.jpg
convert: Incorrect image header in file (data.dis).
When I use +FT, I get data.tga, but convert still doesn't like it, saying:
convert data.dis data.jpg
convert: Incorrect image header in file (data.dis). 

I'm sure I'm doing something bone-head wrong, but I don't get it...

		   John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services
E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG		USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN  55417

------------------------------

From: -=WireHead=- <timothy.butkiewicz@wmich.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 14:14:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Netscape's lock

On Fri, 9 Feb 1996, Binh Do wrote:

> >From time to time, when I start Netscape 2.0, I got a message saying that
lock file
> is being used by someone else and I can continue but cannot use tha cache.
Why is
> that as I am the only user on my machine. Usually I have to delete the
"lock" file
> in .netscape. Anyone experiences the same thing?

sounds like you have at times, not exited Netscape correctly...

- -Timothy


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From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:41:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Installation With Drive Overlay

> I have something called "Drive Overlay" installed on my HD.  It lets me 
> access my entire Hard Drive under MS-DOS.  I am interested in installing 
> FreeBSD with BootEasy but am cautious.  I believe, if I install 
> BootEasy, it will modify the boot record, correct?  And If it does, will 
> I loose access to my DOS partition?  Is there some workaround for this? 
>  Maybe I could boot from the Dynamic Drive Overlay Partition and then it 
> would boot DOS?

I believe this is a product like OnTrack DiskManager 6.x and 7.x
which replaces the boot code with something like 64 sectors of boot
loader for an INT 13 redirecting TSR and then makes the TSR do the
geometry translation for you.

OnTrack puts itself there with a fake partition entry that indicates
that it's there and points to the real partition entry.

Each disk access with the TSR loaded adds 64 to the absolute sector
offest and accesses there instead.

At the 64th sector, the normal DOS MBR is installed.  The TSR loads
it after it is loaded, and executes it.

So the DOS MBR starts booting normally and *thinks* it's at the front
of the disk.


When BSD is installed, it knows to look for the OnTrack disk manager,
but it doesn't necessarily know to look for the "Drive Overlay" code.

So it is dangereous to install the BSD boot manager on this drive.


What I recommend (even for OnTrack) is that you install normally,
and then boot the DOS partition on the disk and install OS-BS from
the DOS prompt -- this will make sure it is loaded AFTER the INT 13
TSR for geometry translation is loaded, so the MBR you replace will
be the DOS MBR, not the "Disk Overlay" or "OnTrack" TSR-loading MBR.

Don't install the OS-BS from the BSD install, since the OS-BS will
be installed without the TSR loaded, and may not recognize it for what
it is and install over the DOS MBR instead.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
- ---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.

------------------------------

From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:44:00 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: ISDN devices supported?

> From the keyboard of francis yeung:
> 
> > 	Or any ISA ISDN cards that support CAPI which is used by
> > 	the current ISDN driver. The German ISDN cards all support
> > 	CAPI which is developed in Germany. However, I have a hard
> > 	time in ordering  one here in US.
> 
> The "CAPI"'s supplied for the ISDN boards are TSR's for MS-@#$ and are
> not usable under FreeBSD.
> 
> Some intelligent ISDN boards have a more or less stripped down CAPI in
> firmware, but these implementations have not much in common with the 
> CAPI specs and are provided to make the programming of the real CAPI
> easier.
> 
> There is a CAPI 1.1 and 2.0 spec available for Unix, but it is STREAMS
> based and - because CAPI is a spec to interface a particular hardware
> to a programming interface - it must be written for every piece of 
> hardware.
> 
> So i doubt we ever get a CAPI interface for *BSD although it would be
> a very good thing to have.

Depends.

Is there a NetWare server ODI CAPI driver for the card?

How about a 32 bit NDIS CAPI driver for the card?

If the answer to either one is "yes", then you can use it under BSD,
assuming you implement a kernel environment capable of accepting
protected mode ODI drivers or protected mode NDIS drivers.

This wouldn't be as hard as it sounds.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
- ---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.

------------------------------

From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 13:55:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Netscape's lock

> Yah, netscape write a .lock file and deletes it upon close.  If you're 
> not running netscape, and just didn't shut it cleanly, you can just do a 
> rm ~/.netscape/.lock or ~/.netscape/lock whichever it is, i don't 
> remember..

This is broken.

NetScape should write a PID in the lock file, and when a potential
conflict arises (ie: the lockfile is already there), it needs to do:

	if( kill( lockpid, 0) && errno == ESRCH) {
		/*
		 * Kill will return -1 and set errno to ESRCH if
		 * the process does not exist.  It should ignore the
		 * lockfile in this case.
		 */

		/* delete lock file*/
		...

		goto retry;
	}

	/*
	 * Kill will return 0 if the process exists and you
	 * have permission to kill it.
	 *
	 * Kill will return -1 and set errno to EPERM if the
	 * process exists and *don't* have permission to kill it.
	 */

	 /* tell user about other process*/
	 ...

	 exit( ...);


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
- ---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.

------------------------------

From: lihsin@astro.phys.clemson.edu (Lih-Sin The)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 16:18:51 -0500
Subject: need help on freebsd installation

Hi,
   I have tried many times to install FreeBSD 2.1 from Walnut Creek CDROM
January 1996 to our 486dx2 PC with 8MBRAM, Adaptec 1540CF scsi controller, 
325MB IDE drive and MICROPOLIS 4110-09NB_Nov189F 1.02GB scsi disk (scsi id 0),
and NEC scsi cdrom (scsi id 4), but always find trouble during the 
installation. The sequence/procedure of the installation is shown below. 
I'll appreciate very much if you can give me suggestions on how to pass 
through the installation. I might missed some installation procedure.

Thanks very much for your attention and helps,
lihsin
lihsin@astro.phys.clemson.edu
=============================================================================

0. in dos, make bootfloppy from cdrom, by typing: makeflp.

1. boot freebsd with floppy  or from cdrom by typing: install

2. then "Welcome to FreeBSD window" appears
   choose: Novice installation

3. choose sd0 ScSI disk device with spacebar then carriage return

4. a screen show disk name: sd0
   disk geometry: 1002 cyls/64 head/32 sectors

   offset     size      End    Name     Ptype    Desc    Subtype    Flags
        0       32       31      -        6     unused       0
       32   901088   901119   sd0s1       1     unknown    131
   901120   124928  1026047   sd0s2       1     unknown    130
  1026048  1027832  2053879      -        6     unused       0  <-reverse
video

5. type C for creating a partition 
   with specified size : 1027832
   and the screen look as:

   disk name: sd0
   disk geometry: 1002 cyls/64 head/32 sectors

   offset     size      End    Name     Ptype    Desc    Subtype    Flags
        0       32       31      -        6     unused       0
       32   901088   901119   sd0s1       1     unknown    131
   901120   124928  1026047   sd0s2       1     unknown    130
  1026048  1026048  2052095   sd0s3       3     freebsd    165  <-reverse
video
  2052096     1784  2053879      -        6     unused       0

6. type: S set bootable 

7. type: Q for quit

8. then "install Boot Manager for drive sd0?" screen appears,
   choose: None with arrow and then spacebar 
           for Leave the master boot record untouched.

9. then "FreeBSD Disklabel Editor" Screen appears.
   choose: A for Auto Defaults for All!

10. then the screen looks like:
                    FreeBSD Disklabel Editor
    disk: sd0     Partition name: sd0s3     Free: 0 blocks (0MB)

    Part   Mount      Size     Newfs
    wd0s1  <none>     325MB    DOS
    sd0s3a  /          32MB    UFS Y
    sd0s3b <none>      27MB    SWAP
    sd0s3e  /var       30MB    UFS Y
    sd0s3f  /usr      411MB    UFS Y

11. then, type: Q finish

12. then "Choose Distributions" screen appears,
    choose: X-User

13. then "XFree86 3.1.2-S distribution" screen appears,
    choose: Basic  and select all components with spacebars
    choose: Server, select SVGA, VGA16, Mono
    choose: Fonts, select all fonts
    choose: Exit

14. Finally, choose an installation medium
    Install from a FreeBSD cdrom

15. then "User Confirmation Requested" screen appears,
    choose: Yes to confirm continuing installation.

16. then Information Dialog scrren appears, 
    .
    making a new file system  on /dev/rsd0a
    copying initial device files
    doing newfs -b 8192 -f 2048 -u 2633 /mnt/dev/rsd0s3f
    doing newfs -b 8192 -f 2048 -u 4096 /mnt/dev/rsd0s3e
    copying the boot floppy to /stand on root filesystem
    Loading root iamge from: cd0a
    Extracting bin into / directory ....
     up to about 19%

    panic: bad dir

    syncing disk.... 13 13 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 ........giving up
    Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort

    or at other time gives me Message:
    Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 10240 bytes) 
    Unable to transfer the bin distribution from cd0a.
    do you want to try to retrieve it again?  choose yes
    This happens many times, and i have not had any success yet.

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From: Benjamin Tomhave <tomhavbe@martin.luther.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 16:12:56 -0600
Subject: New user Qs

Hello!

I've been working on installing FreeBSD 2.1.0 all day today, and am now at a
point
where I have some questions which I'm not having any luck answering myself.

1) I'm trying to get TCP/IP networking established, but without any luck.  I
have
a 3COM 3c509 card installed.  I am trying to get the ep0 driver to load/work. 
In
boot-up, it does recognize the card as being there, but it gives an error
about
eeprom not reacting correctly (?).  There is not a bootROM on this card.

2) At boot-up, it appears that the kernel has my geometry as being 1600+, and
only
16 heads, and 1.6 million sectors.  The numbers do not necessarily appear in
this
order.  My question is, is this right?  When I installed the OS, the geometry
was
set correctly.  I have 826 cylinders, 32 heads, 63 sectors.

3) Is there a way, when booting from the hard drive, to get into a system
setup
screen, or anything.  As of late, I have been working on some HPs which have a
program called SAM.  Is there anything like this, or even just like the
install 
menu that can be accessed during runtime, or do all changes have to be done
manually?

Thanks for your help!

Sincerely,

Benjamin Tomhave
Luther College
Decorah, IA 52101
tomhavbe@martin.luther.edu

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From: kkoay@lightside.com (Kok K. Koay)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 14:29 PST
Subject: Netscape 2.0

Hi, I notice that a lot of people are using Netscape 2.0, but is the 2.0
version is a beta or the final release? I am a little late to install the
port for netscape2, by the time I want to install it, the 2.0 beta binary
was removed from all ftp site and the new 2.0 stable was out. My question
is, are there any old binary left out there and any new port for the new 2.0
final release.

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From: Tom Crummey (ADM) <tom@uces.bangor.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 23:24:48 GMT
Subject: Word Perfect 6.0 Demo

Hello,

I know this is old ground, but I've just recently joind the mailing list
and I have searched the archives on the Web pages...so I'll ask if the
X version of Word Perfect 6.0 (SCO demo) will run on the 2.1 release version 
of FreeBSD with the IBCS2 emulation enabled.

I have tried the installation program, but get the following messages from
the kernel:

Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockopen: [3246] 0x2101
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockopen: [3246] 0x2101
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockopen: SPX: [3246] opening
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockopen: SPX: [3246] opening
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockopen: SPX: [3246] get a unix domain socket
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockopen: SPX: [3246] get a unix domain socket
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockopen: SPX: [3246] connect to
/tmp/X11-unix/X0
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockopen: SPX: [3246] connect to
/tmp/X11-unix/X0 
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: IBCS2: 'getmsg' not supported
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: IBCS2: 'getmsg' not supported
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: IBCS2: 'putmsg' not supported
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: IBCS2: 'putmsg' not supported
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockioctl: [3246] ? SS_IOW('?',126,l=4) 0x2101
(0x8004667e) <0xefbffeec>
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockioctl: [3246] ? SS_IOW('?',126,l=4) 0x2101
(0x8004667e) <0xefbffeec>
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockioctl: bad magic efbfff94 (sys_generic.c
has no socksys mods?)
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockioctl: bad magic efbfff94 (sys_generic.c
has no socksys mods?)
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockclose: [3246] 0x2101
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: sockclose: [3246] 0x2101
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: ss_fop_close: [3246] fd=5 is a socket
Feb 10 23:22:44 tompc /kernel: ss_fop_close: [3246] fd=5 is a socket

Any assistance would be gratefully received.

Thanks,
- -- 
Tom.

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