From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 11:19:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7F016A4CE for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E629243D1D for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:19:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-stable-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.196.44]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004030319194101100bhk5ne>; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:19:41 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D09EDE; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 14:19:39 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: stable@freebsd.org References: <20040303160340.700C5170D4@www.wcborstel.nl> <20040303170858.AC69040830@fw.farid-hajji.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 03 Mar 2004 14:19:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20040303170858.AC69040830@fw.farid-hajji.net> Message-ID: <44oerd91ro.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 19:19:42 -0000 Cordula's Web writes: > [jorn@wcborstel.nl] > > I've been on the question list for some time, and I have noticed that > > many people do not know how to get sound support up and running in > > FreeBSD 5.X. I know that re-compiling the kernel is easy enough, but > > there are still people not willing to do so, as I have noticed on the > > list. Therefor I thought it might be an idea to put sound support in the > > GENERIC kernel configuration, so that newbies will no longer find > > themselves stuck with that. > > Yes, it would be great to have this in GENERIC, > since it is a major annoyance for x86 desktop users. > > An alternative would be a knob in /etc/rc.conf > which would invoke "kldload snd" (or whatever). A vastly superior alternative. Any hardware that isn't necessary for an install shouldn't be probed during an install. AGP support keeps me from being able to boot GENERIC kernels on one of my machines. Yes, that machine has some buggy firmware, but I don't think that should automatically mean that FreeBSD won't work on it for the sake of a feature it doesn't support anyway. - Lowell -- I predict this will degenerate into a bikeshed discussion within 2 more messages. Or maybe that's -2 messages...