From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 21 5:57:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de [139.13.25.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6400037B895 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 05:57:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de) Received: from fettesau.stuwo.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (stuwopc5.stuwo.fh-wilhelmshaven.de [139.13.209.5]) by mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA05229 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:56:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <4.1.20000421144455.00a0f890@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> X-Sender: ohoyer@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:55:11 +0200 To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Olaf Hoyer Subject: Re: Best NIC / Best CDR-CDRW In-Reply-To: <8do845$2ur6$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <38FCAC4B.1B007400@uwi.tt> <4.1.20000418231403.022c19f0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:41 21.04.00 +0200, you wrote: >Olaf Hoyer wrote: > >> cards from Netgear (Bay Networks) and D-Link have good reputation for being >> stable, and being not that expensive. Also Allied Telesyn did some good >> cards (Have used some old ones with AMD chip on them-smooth operation). > >Not particular useful, as far as recommendations go. All of these >vendors have sold cards based on a wide variety of different >chipsets. For example, I'm fairly sure that... Hi! Well, yes, you're right, but those companies have some bang-for-buck ratio that is quite good. Also I should have made clear, that I also wanted to express that there is also (mechanical) stability of a given card that is important. So I only wanted to point into a certain direction, where one could have a look for themselves, or perhaps pick up some used ones. >> Realtek is only favorite when it comes to budget, due to being build into >> el cheapo products, you get a higher RMA rate. > >... the Realtek card I just mentioned in another message bears an Allied >Telesyn label. ok, nobody is without failures -)) the ISA chipsets (8029) were quite reasonable, at least one can get them to work without big hassle, and when they are up, they at least transfer something... The later ones 8039 (PCI 10 MBit) and 100MBit (IIRC 8139) are not that troubleless... And to compete with the market, those mid-ranged (pricewise) manufacturers also need something in the very lower segment.. Because of the common need for cheap things, those _real cheap_ manufacturers that will sell everything, also need some pricy chipsets, and Realtek seems to be one of the cheapest, $$wise. So for them, you get poor mechanical quality, thus resulting in a high DOA/RMA rate. Some better manufacturers like ATI, Netgearb etc may also use those chipsets for budget cards, where performance is not the primary goal, but their mechanical design is better. Sorry when I did not made this clear. Regards Olaf Hoyer -------- Olaf Hoyer www.nightfire.de mailto:Olaf.Hoyer@nightfire.de FreeBSD- Turning PC's into workstations ICQ:22838075 Liebe und Hass sind nicht blind, aber geblendet vom Feuer, dass sie selber mit sich tragen. (Nietzsche) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message