From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 29 21:32:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DECD16A418 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0055513C448 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-20-82.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.20.82]) by mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBTLWGb2000658 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:32:17 +1100 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBTLWGCL073488; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:32:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBTLWGKU073487; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:32:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 08:32:16 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20071229213216.GV40785@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <476AF132.4080304@chuckr.org> <86abo1g2pu.fsf@ds4.des.no> <476EA521.9020707@chuckr.org> <20071224131425.GF23337@cicely12.cicely.de> <47715E1F.9080502@chuckr.org> <86sl1qikam.fsf@ds4.des.no> <477440A2.4070601@chuckr.org> <86sl1n14vv.fsf@ds4.des.no> <477698D8.2040802@chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Op27XXJsWz80g3oF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <477698D8.2040802@chuckr.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: FreeBSD-Hackers Subject: Re: printing boot probe messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:32:28 -0000 --Op27XXJsWz80g3oF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 01:58:32PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: >booting. If I stick "-v" in /boot.config, then when the kernel probes, all >the probes are verbose. Stuff like my HDaudio card print incredibly >verbose listings. OK, that's what I will call here Print#1 > >The other thing is what I can see if I see the ascii-graphical loader (the >picture, in ascii-graphics, either of a BSDaemon, or of the letters >"FreeBSD", and a list of about 9 options for booting. If I select item #5, >then I get a listing. The listing is quite distinct from what I identify >as Print#1, so I'll call this Print#2. If I either hit return at that There are no distinct names for what you call Print#1 and Print#2 because these outputs should be identical. Within the kernel, the verbosity is controlled by a boolean flag "bootverbose" - which is visible via sysctl as "debug.bootverbose". What differences are you seeing between the two outputs? What is the content of your /boot.config and /boot/loader.conf (and any other files you have changed in /boot)? Can you please provide the output from "sysctl debug.boothowto" and "kenv" in the the above two cases as well as a default boot. I presume you aren't seeing any of this odd behaviour when you boot =66rom an install CD. It would really help if you reverted back to a stock GENERIC kernel, with no local mods in / or /boot and then started re-applying your changes one at a time to see what has gone wrong. >I'm beginning, right now, to wonder: I increased the dmesg-buffer to 64K, I >wonder if maybe that might possibly cause the bug? I know it shouldn't, >but it wouldn't be the first time this week that I found weird behaviour in >the kernel: if you set the number of vtys from the default 16 down to 8, >that caused me to lose keyboard input to my X11. None of this should happen either. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --Op27XXJsWz80g3oF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHdrzg/opHv/APuIcRAiHmAJ9kayXUg5sUgSibFqVIbW6jBjrCkwCgwUS2 vP89fmUedb0y12CttU5aOAg= =oa2D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Op27XXJsWz80g3oF--