From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 14:48:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10763CE for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) Received: from duck.symmetricom.us (duck.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA619D1 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org (daffy.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.218]) by duck.symmetricom.us (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1LEmRaN042000 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:48:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r1LEmPl7052940; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:48:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: The Next BeagleBone Better & Faster for Less! From: Ian Lepore To: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <48679DB0-7A2B-4617-BAA3-30C21F3CD61B@bsdimp.com> References: <5125A73F.10802@ceetonetechnology.com> <20130221011346.3c376117@ivory.wynn.com> <48679DB0-7A2B-4617-BAA3-30C21F3CD61B@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:48:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1361458105.1185.19.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: george@ceetonetechnology.com, freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, Brett Wynkoop X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the StrongARM Processor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:48:39 -0000 On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 23:49 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Brett Wynkoop wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:49:03 -0500 > > George Rosamond wrote: > > > >> On 02/20/13 23:27, Alie Tan wrote: > >>> Just got a news about new Beaglebone: > >>> > >>> http://beagleboard.org/unzipped/ > >> > >> Wow. Although personally, I could do without the HDMI. > >> > >> It would be ideal there was a stock FBSD image for them to provide for > >> purchasers... as in official on their www site as an alternative to > >> Linux. > >> > >> g > > > > Greeting- > > > > We need working USB support to contribute that to their site. > > > > Is this new bone going to be the same as the old bone, but with video, > > in other words will current kernels run or will the hard core kernel > > folks have to rework things? > > We'll likely have to rework thing, at least if we want to run out of flash on the card. it has a new flash chip that has micron markings on it. Sure would be nice to know what, exactly, that chip is... > > Warner Unless it's a fairly old chip, or one of Micron's offerings with on-chip ECC, our current ecc code isn't going to handle it. I just spent weeks learning that the hard way. The ecc code we have checked in is a hamming code implementation that can correct single-bit errors, and modern nand chips are requiring algorithms that can correct multi-bit errors. Our current code also isn't ready to handle the situation where the SoC's nand flash controller hardware does ecc with some cooperation from software. -- Ian